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Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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I mean, in the same light, what if that was HIV? She broke that bond, that trust. He just utilised the situation...he knew the response that would be elicited, that is why...and this is a measured response.

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i got tested for everything. usually it takes 6 months for HIV antibodies to develop so i could be ****ed

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Pay attention, Provost. The infection came into the relationship in a sex act that MRT was actually taking part in.

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besides, I think you are underestimating the bond between parent and child


Far from it. If someone takes a pop at me, I'll probably laugh it off. If they take a pop at my daughter, or calculatedly try screwing up my relationship with her, they're in trouble. You don't mess with family.

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Asher is dead right...let's have a f**king sense of proportion here - she has given him an incurable disease


No. She. Didn't.

Why do people persist on thinking this?

They both got it as a result of a threesome that they had with the porn producer, who is the one that had it originally.

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And how can you not realise the consequences of sleeping around, it's pretty f**king obvious, especially when she has picked up an STD and transmitted it to her boyfriend who didn't expect to have to use barrier contraception!


Why do you only hold the woman to this, and not MRT? Especially when he's the one who arranged it all.


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There has been an incredible breech of trust and recklessness to which his action pales in insignificance.


I think the biggest breach of trust here is MRT ratting her out for doing porn after he encouraged her and got her started in it in the first place.

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i got tested for everything. usually it takes 6 months for HIV antibodies to develop so i could be ****ed


Was Dacia lying when she claimed that in your post-split outburst you'd said you wanted to rape her?

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Far from it. If someone takes a pop at me, I'll probably laugh it off. If they take a pop at my daughter, or calculatedly try screwing up my relationship with her, they're in trouble. You don't mess with family.


I have got the impression that the sexual acts filmed were done with one another and this is how the whole problem has arisen because she has carried on with the film maker...if anything else was done with each others knowledge, then appropriate protection was used.

And as for regards to this whole paternal posturing...well the response of his ex's father is an unknown to me, it depends. Still doesn't mean his response was any less measured...

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Was Dacia lying when she claimed that in your post-split outburst you'd said you wanted to rape her?


please laz, she likes **** like that. i was severely angrier at the time too.

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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...and as for 'messing with the family', well, he only passed information onto 'the family'. Considering it is the parents who have taken the action this is barely relevant. She has broken the trust of her family here too...

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It is not Dacia's fault MRT144 has herpes. It's his own fault for agreeing to have a threesome.

What Dacia did that was wrong was to sleep around on him. That's it. That was selfish on her part, but other than making MRT144 feel bad, it did not harm him.

MRT144 on the other hand, was not only selfish but harmful. He went out of his way to **** up Dacia's life. He is a bad person. He's not just immature, he's evil in the true sense of the word.

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...and as for 'messing with the family', well, he only passed information onto 'the family'. Considering it is the parents who have taken the action this is barely relevant. She has broken the trust of her family here too...


I wonder if MRT mentioned to Dacia's mom how he was the one who introduced her to the producer.

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please laz, she likes **** like that. i was severely angrier at the time too.
This keeps getting more and more amusing.

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PH, Dacia's sex-life none of her family's goddamned business.

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shes the person who first met him on the street. we talked about it at length and then i took the inniative to contact him. then she fell head over heels into it and i got burned.

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Yeah, whatever.

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ok dinodoc, you were there.

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shes the person who first met him on the street. we talked about it at length and then i took the inniative to contact him. then she fell head over heels into it and i got burned.


The only part of that where she was wrong is when she had sex with him without you. She didn't wrong you otherwise. Stop acting like a petulent child.

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Acting? I'd say that this thread is proof enough to justify the pejorative without qualifying it.

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LoTM are those lessons for me or her?


for everyone, but especially for young people.

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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PH, Dacia's sex-life none of her family's goddamned business.


And Dacia has no right to f**k around with other people...cause and effect.

And MRT, you've learned a valuable lesson, don't wash your linen in public, especially here...

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The only part of that where she was wrong is when she had sex with him without you. She didn't wrong you otherwise. Stop acting like a petulent child.


im going to try to stop.

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It is not Dacia's fault MRT144 has herpes. It's his own fault for agreeing to have a threesome.

What Dacia did that was wrong was to sleep around on him. That's it. That was selfish on her part, but other than making MRT144 feel bad, it did not harm him.

MRT144 on the other hand, was not only selfish but harmful. He went out of his way to **** up Dacia's life. He is a bad person. He's not just immature, he's evil in the true sense of the word.


That's exactly what I thought when I read the OP.

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MRT is still young, this is an important lesson in growing up.

Dacia has more growing up to do. That is why her mom seeing what she did is so tramatic.

If my parents saw me doing that (assuming I had done that) they would just roll their eyes and ask how much I got paid.

Why?

Because I am a grown up!

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MRT is still young, this is an important lesson in growing up.

Dacia has more growing up to do. That is why her mom seeing what she did is so tramatic.

If my parents saw me doing that (assuming I had done that) they would just roll their eyes and ask how much I got paid.

Why?

Because I am a grown up!


which is what my parents did. i told them i was having trouble making ends meet and it was with my GF at the time it didnt seem so bad. and then i told them i negleted to sign release forms so i had the upper hand.

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I think 2 wrongs don't make a right and that you shouldn't of done what you did

but I also think that the first wrong doesn't make the 2nd wrong wrong...

Still, what you did was immature, and is a good reflecting point to ponder when thinking who it is you want to become. I have a similar time in my life that makes me do the right thing now and in the future.

Besides, if you really wanted to get her goat you should of waited at least 1 year... Revenge is best served luke warm

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Because the first was (probably) done out of insecurity and thoughtlessness (which still doesnīt make it ok btw.) And the other was premeditated and made out of pure malice.


Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Oh, so that's OK then?


PH, you quote me and you donīt read what I write? No, itīs not alright dammit. But the ends doesnīt justify the means IMO. And why do people insist that MRT was given a STD when he contracted it himself by not using a condom? Thatīs just bending the truth to suit ones own arguments.

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And Dacia has no right to f**k around with other people...cause and effect.


That's an awfully Victorian attitude to take. Sexual misconduct should be punished by having your future destroyed? No! If you screw around on your partner, you get punished by losing your partner and any support they may have given you. That's it. Cheating on someone isn't a crime in the civilized world. You don't destroy someone's future because they cheated on you. You dump them or you work things out.

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Her future destroyed? Now that is melodramatic...no one knows the future.

Sexual misconduct? Also potentially jeopardised his life through the negligence of it too...

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Why is everyone on here still acting as though this story is for real? It's obviously a wind up...

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Simple, don't step out of line. It is amazing how cause and effect work...you know, if I started fiddling experiments at work because I couldn't be arsed my employment would be terminated immediately. I would be bankrupted pretty quickly, I would be in **** and I'd find it very hard to find another job in the field. And quite rightly so! That is consequence for you...you have to take responsibility for your actions!


Of course you have to take responsibility for you actions, I havenīt claimed otherwise. But that is up to the one who made the initial error. No one can take it upon himself to "teach someone else a lesson". Then he is just as guilty as the one who made the error. And you canīt really compare screwing up at work and screwing another guy. Itīs two completely different things, when love and feeling and sex and that crap is present it ****s up everything else...

 
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