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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:21
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
suuuuuuuurrrrreeee 
they are, as soon as they realize you guys are overpaid, lazy, and cant communicate. they can cut all the fat in america, and hire five times as many CS guys in India, plus managers, for the price of one in america, and they do a better job. plus they dont ask for healthcare, or any other perks. a win win. |
I don't ask for health care either, that's why the high-level CS jobs in the US are being outsourced to Canada.
There are significant problems with handing out high-level work to India, the same kind you'd get if you started outsourcing management there to monkeys with basic english and a flowchart on how to work.
I don't expect you to understand the intricacies of what you're talking about, but this is another stunning example of why people like you are not appreciated --and seldom hired -- in a technical industry.
People with management degrees are more apt to run a McDonalds than they are to even attempt to manage something complex and over their head like software development or research.
This whole India-outsourcing thing has been hyped up for years, and each year more software engineering jobs are added with higher salary. At some point, the management types will figure out just how badly they understand the industry, and maybe at that point they'll be useful.
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Lawrence of Arabia
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of the Gulag Archipelago
Apr 2001 time: 06:21
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I don't ask for health care either, that's why the high-level CS jobs in the US are being outsourced to Canada |
there ya go. i forgot you were in canada, and was talking from a US persepctive, but good for you. it makes me better off. thanks for not asking for healthcare. 
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I don't expect you to understand the intricacies of what you're talking about, but this is another stunning example of why people like you are not appreciated --and seldom hired -- in a technical industry. |
lets be serious here . . . you wouldnt need to worry about me applying to your 'industry.' you would have to pay me outrageous salaries (with health insurance) to make me deal with CS majors. i mean, take you for exampple. you listen to Rob Thomas. you guys are weird, and live inside little boxes. no way would i want to work in that environment, an environment which includes people emailing each other when they work next door to each other. hahahahah/
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People with management degrees are more apt to run a McDonalds than they are to even attempt to manage something complex and over their head like software development or research. |
good thing im not doing a management degree!!! since i have great people skills, not only will i be an excellent economist, i will also be able to eliminate my bosses job, thus giving me greater command over my salary, and therefore, much higher wages then any tecchie in the 'industry.'
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Riesstiu IV
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quote: Originally posted by Asher
What can I say, I'm bored and your trolls don't even require any kind of thought.
You're the typical arts-student out of his league and trying to avoid the real topic out of your own ignorance. |
I beat both of you. I'm a double major in CS and History! I get the best of both worlds but I have to admit CS is boring as hell. But why the hostility, Asher? Did a liberal arts major beat you as a child or something?
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:21
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
And my point is that the aptitude in solving a problem does not necessarily correlate with the speed in which the problem is solved.
Both need to be considered. If you have two solutions, and one works, but another works better, I would rather have the better one even if it took longer to work it out.
Granted, as one becomes more proficient at a task, it can be done more quickly, but speed doesn't compensate for lack of quality. |
Why don't you read the site more? I simplified it because I didn't think anybody cares about the details.
But time isn't the only factor -- in fact if you look at the "time" scorecard on the site and the final ranking, the rankings changed in favor of "elegance" and efficiency. Waterloo was 3rd in original time-based score, and became 4th after the solutions were inspected.
quote: That hardly surprises me. They spend very little time on theory, and plenty of time on going through the motions quickly. |
So you've taken the fourth-year computer science courses at UBC?
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:21
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
again, a lack of people skills is evident from your part. a person more skilled at interpreting people will know that a) my english is excellent (a lot better then what they speak north of the border, eh) and b) nah, not a community college. i attend ucsd. its reputation preceeds it, so i wont need to harp on its virtues. |
Your English is terrible, if only because you have yet to master the shift key. You also have comma splices, sentence fragments, and major punctuation problems.
Don't give me the excuse that you "just don't care" when typing online -- it should be a natural thing to anyone with good English skills, and good people skills.
I don't think you can make any judgement on someone's people skills based on an online forum, in any case. In person I'm told I have excellent people skills by friends, family, my manager, my customers, etc.
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Lawrence of Arabia
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of the Gulag Archipelago
Apr 2001 time: 06:21
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Your English is terrible, if only because you have yet to master the shift key. You also have comma splices, sentence fragments, and major punctuation problems. |
its not worth my time
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Don't give me the excuse that you "just don't care" when typing online -- it should be a natural thing to anyone with good English skills, and good people skills. |
i dont remeber saying that. i dont make excuses.
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I don't think you can make any judgement on someone's people skills based on an online forum, in any case. In person I'm told I have excellent people skills by friends, family, my manager, my customers, etc. |
who said i was talking about you? i was talking about the CS crowd in general. however, the fact that you brought it up, might say something . . .
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