23-04-2005 15:41									#91
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--"Calvin would turn in hell."

Are you catholic?

	23-04-2005 15:47									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Saras --"Calvin would turn in hell." Are you catholic?

You should ask Heresson or Obi Gyn that !


No, I just don't like religious fanatics of any stripe. Calvin collaborated with the Inquisition to get an anti-Trinitarian killed.

" ...when he studied the scriptures in the original, he found no reference to the Trinity. He wrote to Calvin, 'Instead of God, you have a Cerberus of three heads: the Trinity.' "

He lived in a world which killed and expelled Jews and Muslims. In the 20th Century we have witnessed the murder of six million Jews, and now war with many Muslims.

Like many students of faith today, Servetus envisioned a common spiritual reality greater than any creed. He wrote THE RESTITUTION OF CHRISTIANITY as a call to return to Christianity of the Gospels rather than the dogmas of the creeds. Discovered as the author of this heresy, he was arrested in Vienne, but escaped, only to be recognized in Geneva and condemned to death by flames. The sentence was carried out on the 27th of October 1553. As Servetus died, he said, jesus thou son of the eternal God, have mercy upon me.?It is recorded that Calvins associate, Farel, said, 'If he would only say, "Jesus. Thou eternal Son of God",we could cut him free.'

The example and writings of Servetus influenced the founding of the Unitarian Churches in Poland and Transylvania. In his person Servetus linked religion and science, setting a pattern which lived on Unitarian tradition through Joseph Priestley, Linus Pauling, and today in persons such as Tim Berners-Lee. "


http://www.hibbert-assembly.org.uk/Servetus


http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0712676988

	23-04-2005 16:12									#93
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quote: And no Protestant Swiss ? Calvin would turn in hell.

I grant you that. It has only been recent times that the Swiss Presbyterians have been outnumbered by Catholics.

But as for the Hussites, they have never approached the numbers needed anywhere to be a majority of the Christians anywhere.

	23-04-2005 17:24									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi But as for the Hussites, they have never approached the numbers needed anywhere to be a majority of the Christians anywher.

In which nation is that meant to be then ?

	23-04-2005 19:30									#95
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At the time?

Catholic Austria?

	23-04-2005 19:35									#96
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Anyhow, I've had an interesting few days.

I would like to request the services of one of the Poly Germans since some informtation has come to me regarding my ancestry in what was formerly East Prussia.

Unfortunately the information prefers the terms Ostpreußen, and gemeinde to ones I would prefer to work with.

	24-04-2005 16:03									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Og Religion is deffinately wrong. Southwestern Bulgaria is not Muslim.

I think there are some minor mistakes. I have noticed that south Albania is marked as muslim whereas it is orthodox (Greek minority). Also north Fyrom is not marked as muslim but it is (Albanian segment).
Maybe I'm wrong, but in south Bulgaria you have a muslim minority which is close to 1 million? (from the ottomans?)

	25-04-2005 01:18									#98
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yeah, I would have to agree with Paiktis here.

	25-04-2005 02:04									#99
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switzlerland is like 40% catholic, 40% protestant, 10% muslim/other, and the rest dont have a religion i think.

	25-04-2005 03:02									#100
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This religious map...
- at least one county of Northern Ireland has more catholics than Protestants
- Switzerland has no protestants...
- Germany isn't complecty correct either
Bosnia is complectly mixed up
Montenegro is majortly Orthodox
northern part of Albania is majorly catholic
Kosovo part...
Transsilvania...
No Muslim Albanians in Macedonia?
Pomaks aren't than numberous, and there are many Muslims in Dobrudja
Galicia region in Ukraine is Greek-catholic...
Adjaria in Georgia is Muslim
Karabach in Azerbeydjan is Armenian
Dagestan, Tatarstan, Ingushetia, Tchechenia etc in Russia are Muslim
there are some catholics in Byelorus
Kaliningrad is orthodox today
...

	25-04-2005 03:13									#101
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quote: Switzerland has no protestants...

Uh, what do you call the Swiss presbyterians, better known as Calvinists?

I didn't know they were Catholic.

	25-04-2005 03:23									#102
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Which leads to an interesting question: why are left parties associated with the color red? It must have something to do with the octobrian revolution?

It symbolizes the blood shed by the working class for freedom. It's been the color of the left since the 1880s.

	25-04-2005 03:32									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi about 6:1 Catholic : Protestant ratio

Yeah, after the Austrians took Hungary from the Ottomans, they began supressing the Protestants.

	25-04-2005 03:33									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Uh, what do you call the Swiss presbyterians, better known as Calvinists? I didn't know they were Catholic.

It has no catholics ON THIS MAP

	25-04-2005 03:34									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi At the time? Catholic Austria?

Wrong! Bohemia.

	25-04-2005 03:37									#106
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Czechoslovakia was where Jan Hus led the Protestant Hussite revolt.

Hus predated the Protestant Reformation by 100 years.

	25-04-2005 04:05									#107
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I think there are some minor mistakes. I have noticed that south Albania is marked as muslim whereas it is orthodox (Greek minority). Also north Fyrom is not marked as muslim but it is (Albanian segment). Maybe I'm wrong, but in south Bulgaria you have a muslim minority which is close to 1 million? (from the ottomans?)

While Greece claims all orthodox in Albania are Greeks, they are mostly Aromanians...

quote: Religion is deffinately wrong. Southwestern Bulgaria is not Muslim.

Not quite. In Rodopy mountains live Bulgarian-speaking (though considered Turks by Turkey and at least by some of themselves) Pomaks. Most of Bulgarian Muslims live in Dobrudja though, I think.

	25-04-2005 05:10									#108
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here is a map of religions of the world by me!
It's not 100% correct, though, not even close

part 1 - Eurasiafricaustralia

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	25-04-2005 05:11									#109
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american part (even more mixed up )

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	25-04-2005 05:13									#110
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Not enough frogs to be given any credence at all.

	25-04-2005 05:17									#111
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the mighty Church of Frog is on the rise, that's true.

	25-04-2005 20:15									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson While Greece claims all orthodox in Albania are Greeks, they are mostly Aromanians...

Greece doesn't claim that. The Greek minority that lives in the south Albania though is orthodox. That's what I was saying.

	25-04-2005 20:31									#113
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Aromanians? Who are they?

	25-04-2005 20:32									#114
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To be honest I've never heard of them either.

	25-04-2005 21:03									#115
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what are the specs of dirt around the map, Heresson?

	25-04-2005 21:06									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Az what are the specs of dirt around the map, Heresson?

Frogs.

	25-04-2005 21:20									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi The folks with the second largest navy at the time? How about Canada? We did way more than the French did in WWII.

Canada a power

Second largest Navy? Bigger than either the US or UK? I don't believe it.

	25-04-2005 21:26									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson american part (even more mixed up )

I love New England as Catholic

	25-04-2005 21:30									#119
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Actually, third largest navy in the world at the end of the war. Only the US and UK were larger. Then we scrapped most of it.

Shouldn't be too hard to believe. We were the only really industrialized nation besides the US to not sustain heavy damage at home during the war.

	25-04-2005 22:47									#120
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quote: Actually, third largest navy in the world at the end of the war. Only the US and UK were larger.

That's a far cry from second.

quote: Shouldn't be too hard to believe. We were the only really industrialized nation besides the US to not sustain heavy damage at home during the war.

There was no way you had a larger navy than the US, and I thought it highly unlikely that yours was larger than GB's.