21-04-2005 19:57									#1
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I always liked looking at maps.
Here are two nice ones I found.

	21-04-2005 20:01									#2
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Nice maps

	21-04-2005 20:05									#3
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Baltic religion is messed up. Kalingrad oblast (Prussia) is not Catholic, and is historically protestant.

If that wierd colour is supposed to be Armenian Orthodoxy, you've got to do other cross-shadings for Lebanon and Syria.

	21-04-2005 20:04									#4
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Neat.

	21-04-2005 20:10									#5
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Why are the Social Democrats red? Is that to make them look like communists/anarchists?

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The map of Russia is half-assed. There should be some Muslim majority bits in the Caucasus at least.

Also, it's sad that there aren't any no-religion majority places yet. Unless, of course, they aren't marked.

	21-04-2005 20:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Why are the Social Democrats red? Is that to make them look like communists/anarchists?

Are you saying that Communist/anarchists are a bad thing?

	21-04-2005 20:39									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Are you saying that Communist/anarchists are a bad thing?

No. Of course not. Nevermind. I think it was just a stupid comment. I'm just bored right now.

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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Why are the Social Democrats red? Is that to make them look like communists/anarchists?

It's their symbol colour at least in Germany, and I would guess it's the same in quite a few other countries.

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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Why are the Social Democrats red? Is that to make them look like communists/anarchists?

Americans

But to answer your question, let me show you a few logos of social-democrat/socialist/other leftist European polital parties:

England:



Netherlands:





Germany:




France:



Spain:




Denmark:





Starting to see a pattern?

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funny how the civilised parts are all protestant

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Red usually symbolizes left-wing parties, blue usually symbolizes right-wing parties. The US parties went by this also untill 2000, when the colors were swiched, so now the Dems are blue and the Repubs are red.

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quote: Originally posted by Odin Red usually symbolizes left-wing parties, blue usually symbolizes right-wing parties. The US parties went by this also untill 2000, when the colors were swiched, so now the Dems are blue and the Repubs are red.

heh. that's really weird from where I'm standing
In Greece the color of "social democrats" is green although they use red roses as their informal sign. The communists are red and the rightists are blue which produced a minor controversy of the time since one of the two colors of the flag is blue and some said a party shouldn't copy any of the colors of the flag.
Which leads to an interesting question: why are left parties associated with the color red? It must have something to do with the octobrian revolution?

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quote: Originally posted by Odin Red usually symbolizes left-wing parties, blue usually symbolizes right-wing parties. The US parties went by this also untill 2000, when the colors were swiched, so now the Dems are blue and the Repubs are red.

afaik US parties never had official colors. The use of red for GOP and blue for dems was by one of the networks in the election night coverage, and has since become a cliche.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 why are left parties associated with the color red? It must have something to do with the octobrian revolution?

probably, I would also guess that conservatives being blue comes from aristocrats calling themselves "blue-blooded.

	21-04-2005 23:41									#18
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"... comes from aristocrats calling themselves blue-blooded"

What nonsense.

Besides, at least here, the Conservative colour is green.

Blue is the colour of Liberalism, always has been. Check my avatar which is the symbol of my party, the Liberals.

... whose American sister party, ironically, is the Democratic Party

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that religion map is really have assesd.

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In Canada:
- Orange == Social Democrats
- Red == Liberals
- Blue == Conservatives, Quebeckers
- Green == Greens

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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Americans But to answer your question, let me show you a few logos of social-democrat/socialist/other leftist European polital parties: England:

Why the roses?

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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Why the roses?

Because at first sight it looks good, lovely and something that will only come with great pleasure!

But when you have it, deep thorns stick into your hand and the wounds stay for a long long time.

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Religion is deffinately wrong. Southwestern Bulgaria is not Muslim.

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There was a dictatorship in Austria in the 1950s? I never knew that!

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quote: Originally posted by Az There was a dictatorship in Austria in the 1950s? I never knew that!

They were administered by the "Allies" until 1955 IIRC. Hence, they weren't a democracy.

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What sort of a regime was it? wierd.

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quote: Originally posted by Az What sort of a regime was it? wierd.

wiki:

"In the same year, Austrian independence was restored, but under an Allied Commission, established by agreement of July 4, 1945. The country was then under official Allied occupation from May 9, 1945 to July 27, 1955, when the Austrian State Treaty was signed. Like Germany, Austria was divded in four zones, each of which was controlled by one of the four allied powers, with Vienna being also divided into four zones. Austria participated in the Western European "economic miracle", with the benefit of the Marshall Plan.

In April 1945, the Soviet government allowed the establishment of government including socialists, conservatives and communists, but led by the socialist elder statesman Karl Renner. This government was recognized by the by the western allies later that year. Even though under occupation, the Austrian government was officially permitted to conduct foreign relations with the approval of the four occupying governments under the agreement of June 28, 1946. As part of this trend, Austria was one of the founding members of the Danube Commission since August 18, 1948."

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Which 4 allied powers? I know US, SU, and Britain. Who else?