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A Scathing Chairman Dean Finds Republicans 'Evil,' 'Corrupt' and 'Brain-Dead'

By Brian Faler

Monday, April 25, 2005; Page A06

Howard Dean may not be running for anything, but his elbows appear to be as sharp as ever.

Since taking over as chairman of the Democratic National Committee earlier this year, the former presidential candidate has been quoted in newspapers making unusually caustic remarks about Republicans.

Dean has suggested that they are "evil." That they are "corrupt." He called them "brain-dead" during a stop in Toronto -- and while the Terri Schiavo case was still in the news. He has tagged Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) as a "liar." Last week, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that he mimicked a "drug-snorting Rush Limbaugh" at an event there.

Dean was noted for his candid and often unpredictable comments during his campaign last year. Then, as now, many Democrats said they don't mind the former Vermont governor's bluntness.

"You don't want a wallflower for a party chairman," one Senate Democratic aide said. Dean's remarks have not attracted much attention in the national media, in part because he has focused largely on local and regional news outlets since taking the party's helm in February.

But his counterparts in the Republican National Committee have noticed. "It's odd that Howard Dean says he wants to earn the respect of those who live in the red states, but chooses to not only attack their views but attack them personally," RNC spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt said. "Americans want to hear an agenda, rather than name calling."

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No, he's correct.

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A Scathing Chairman Dean Finds Republicans 'Evil,' 'Corrupt' and 'Brain-Dead'

The man's got a talent for noticing the obvious.




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I'm no diehard BLEEDING HEART OMFG LIBERAL EAT BABIES, but it's hard to call Dean anything but honest when he labels the party of Tom DeLay as corrupt.

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Verto, you've got integrity.

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While Dean is probably correct in most of his ramblings... why listen... he's just another loser... Hell, he wasn't even good enough to make the finals last time around

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Wrong, the guy is both drunk and insane.

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While Dean is probably correct in most of his ramblings... why listen... he's just another loser... Hell, he wasn't even good enough to make the finals last time around


So by that reasoning we should only listen to W.

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I think many people in the areas to which Dean is trying to appeal don't like such caustic rhetoric.

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He sounds like a five year old on the playground to be honest.

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I think it's why he did so poorly in Iowa. He sounds like he beats his wife twice daily.

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While Dean is probably correct in most of his ramblings... why listen... he's just another loser... Hell, he wasn't even good enough to make the finals last time around


Ladies and gentlemen, I present you one of the chief reasons bad things happen in the world today: Ming! "he's right but he's a loser, who cares!"

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While Dean is probably correct in most of his ramblings... why listen... he's just another loser... Hell, he wasn't even good enough to make the finals last time around


We Republicans are evil, corrupt and brain dead? You think Dean is right?!!!!!!

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The party of DeLay hasn't exactly won my heart over with their amazing consistency and devotion in regards to ethics, Ned.

They're corrupt.

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Did he mention they eat babies too?

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The party of Ashcroft and Rumsfeld hasn't won my heart over with their amazing consistency and devotion to doing what is right by the people, Ned.

They're close to evil.

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Ah, Ashcroft...wasn't he the frontman in 'The Verve'?

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The party of DeLay hasn't exactly won my heart over with their amazing consistency and devotion in regards to ethics, Ned.

They're corrupt.


Delay is not the Republican Party. Do I call the Democrats a bunch of racists just because the hold Robert KKK Byrd, their former Senate majority leader, in high regard?

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We Republicans are evil, corrupt and brain dead?


This from a guy who regular quotes Ann Coulter.

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The party of Ashcroft and Rumsfeld hasn't won my heart over with their amazing consistency and devotion to doing what is right by the people, Ned.

They're close to evil.


Q, yeah, people who are embarrased by a nude statue are "evil." Your definitions are clear.

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This from a guy who regular quotes Ann Coulter.


Che, but you claim to believe in communism.

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Delay is not the Republican Party. Do I call the Democrats a bunch of racists just because the hold Robert KKK Byrd, their former Senate majority leader, in high regard?

DeLay is the current House Majority leader.

Besides, I've got memories of Iran-Contra and Teapot Dome.

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Q, yeah, people who are embarrased by a nude statue are "evil." Your definitions are clear.

Embarassed by them is one thing. Not something to be proud about, but sure, whatever. Spending upwards of $5k to cover them when you could probably have gotten cheaper drapes at Targét?

Oh, and there's that whole Patriot Act thing, and the Gitmo thing, and the Abu Ghraib thing, and the whole NK thing...

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Fine, let's rephrase that last thing, because some of us think that the Patriot Act and the DMCA are good things(TM).

The party of Coulter and Hannity hasn't exactly won my heart over with their nasty and downright slanderous attacks on anybody who doesn't believe in the same things they do.

They're close to evil.

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Delay is not the Republican Party. Do I call the Democrats a bunch of racists just because the hold Robert KKK Byrd, their former Senate majority leader, in high regard?


DeLay controls Congress with an iron fist. This isn't just another Majority Leader, but the main architect of the Republican Party. For all intents and purposes, DeLay is Congress.

Byrd, even assuming that he's still a racist, has no Congressional leadership role. And he didn't control the Senate like DeLay controls the House. Senate Leaders (with the exception of LBJ) have generally been rather ineffective.

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Regardless, I take it then that Dems approve of the use of outrageous language by their party leader? Clearly this motivates their base, but we shall see whether people will vote for party lead by a drunk who obviously views the Republican Party as the ultimate evil.

Back to corruption, it seems the Dems have absolutely no problem with corruption by their leaders. Think Hillary, Gore and Bill.

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Delay is not the Republican Party. Do I call the Democrats a bunch of racists just because the hold Robert KKK Byrd, their former Senate majority leader, in high regard?


DeLay controls Congress with an iron fist. This isn't just another Majority Leader, but the main architect of the Republican Party. For all intents and purposes, DeLay is Congress.

Byrd, even assuming that he's still a racist, has no Congressional leadership role. And he didn't control the Senate like DeLay controls the House. Senate Leaders (with the exception of LBJ) have generally been rather ineffective.


No one questioned whether Storm Thurmond was "still" a racist. When Republicans praised him, they were labelled racists immediately. Do we detect a double standard here when Dems can praise Byrd without being labelled racists themselves?

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Also, even if Delay controlls the House, his corruption is personal. The Dems object to Delay because he in fact controls the House in a very effective way.

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I don't know if Strom Thurmond was a racist when he died. Trent Lott, OTOH, probably still is. And I'm not a Democrat. And you're ignoring the point.

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Delay is a fantastic name for a politician...so apt

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I think it's why he did so poorly in Iowa. He sounds like he beats his wife twice daily.


 
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