08-05-2005 08:53									#1
	So your stuck in the year 100... how do you conquer the world? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Time for another island in the sea of time scenario .

The stipulations: You and everyone/everything within 50 feet of you when you read this post find yourself in the year 100, in exactly the same spot your currently sitting at. For convenience you speak whatever is the predominant language of the area-if where your sitting is in solid rock or water, assume its the closest stable place.

Given this grand opportunity you get to live out the dream every person has(at least every apolytonite!) world domination.

How do you conquer the world?

Let's hear your master plan .

	08-05-2005 09:15									#2
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I could not answer this thread without full research into Native American thoughts/customs/ideals.

Which, btw, I should, because I have Native American heritage (Penobscot, to be exact - and I probalby have the spelling of the name wrong, which leads me to think that I should start researching ASAP)

	08-05-2005 09:16									#3
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Get a boat to Denmark.
Hang out with Nordic shipbuilders.
Sail round past past Iceland, Greenland and down along the coast to South America.
Meet the Atzecs.
Claim I was a god.
Get loads of gold
Sail back to Europe the way I came.
Be a rich person in Europe.
Use my wealth to become a Roman citizen.
Become Roman Emperor.
Conquer the World.

Hows that for a start?

	08-05-2005 09:18									#4
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Or maybe sail to China and learn about gunpowder.
Sail back to England
Spend loads of years learning how to make guns
Conquer the world

	08-05-2005 09:23									#5
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Our family would build a boat and set sail for the Philippines. There we would watch the waves roll in, go fishing and make and drink rum & beer and screw ruling the world in the year 100. Too early.

	08-05-2005 09:25									#6
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It would simply not be possible to maintain such an empire without modern technology for any period of time(communications stuff, transportation infrastructure,propaganda machines,etc). Such an undertaking would be futile.

	08-05-2005 09:26									#7
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Who cares? Where I am, the Spaniards are going to come and obliterate society in another 1,400 years anyways.

Those of you who live in the Old World get a huge advantage on this question.

	08-05-2005 09:30									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha It would simply not be possible to maintain such an empire without modern technology for any period of time(communications stuff, transportation infrastructure,propaganda machines,etc). Such an undertaking would be futile.

I'm in a dorm room, I have all the technical information I need between me and the guy across the hall, to build a radio from components of nature.

	08-05-2005 09:31									#9
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mrmitchell, you could try to teach metalurgy and chemistry to the natives. I think we all know enough to get things started. Teach the making of cannons and gunpowder in the year 100 and it might be the new world that invades the old. Particularly if you branch out into sailing and sailmaking.

	08-05-2005 09:33									#10
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I really think a good portion of apolytonites could build a cannon from scratch, given the proper information.

	08-05-2005 09:42									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I really think a good portion of apolytonites could build a cannon from scratch, given the proper information.

My belief is that most apolytonites know just enough to get themselves killed either by accident or by pissing people off. Except for Lancer, he is seemly taking the mellow way and would therefore live a long time by not trying to do something stupid like taking over the world

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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I really think a good portion of apolytonites could build a cannon from scratch, given the proper information.

Yeah because, as a load of people who spend far too much time playing computer games a posting on the internet, we are JUST the sort of people you would expect to find it easy to branch out into cannon making

	08-05-2005 10:20									#13
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Ok smart guy Vesayen: As a typical Apolyton user, would you like to share with us the exact method of refining gunpowder, the material fundamentally required for the use of cannons (without the help of almighty Google, which you can't really use if you're stuck in the year 100)?

EDIT: Just for **** and giggles, I'd also like to hear how Lancer would try to manufacture gunpowder if he'd be following his gut feeling?

	08-05-2005 10:27									#14
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Sulpher, saltpeter and a match. Hell I don't know!

	08-05-2005 10:32									#15
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I think I could figure out distilling, and that's the important bit of my original idea. Don't know how I'd do it without cooling tubing however. Hmm.

In the Phils they do make 'chuba' which is a coconut wine. I guess I'd have to develope a taste for the stuff.

	08-05-2005 10:43									#16
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I'd scare the hell out of the others by crying "OMG!!! YOU ARE TEH PWN3D!!! " to everyone I meet. Then they would think I'm a messiah or whatever and therefore they'd all follow me

	08-05-2005 11:06									#17
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I take charge in Rome, with my Harem of 100 of the hottest women in the Empire, and a summer home in Constantinople, (or whatever the hell they called it at that time).

Instead of trying to beat up the Germans, I get them on my side and they fight for me. Eventually I get them into the Empire somehow with some kinda political deal. Instead of going head on against the Persians, we flank all the countries around them and avoid direct confrontation, isolating their punk asses. Head east until we hit the Pacific.

	08-05-2005 11:14									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Sulpher, saltpeter and a match. Hell I don't know!

75% potassium nitrate, 15% charcoal, 10% sulpher

http://riv.co.nz/rnza/hist/gun/gunpdr.htm

EDIT: note that I typed the proportions prior to googling the url.

	08-05-2005 11:18									#19
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quote: The stipulations: You and everyone/everything within 50 feet of you when you read this post find yourself in the year 100, in exactly the same spot your currently sitting at.

Great... scalped and ass-raped by indians.

	08-05-2005 11:19									#20
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What would Agathon's Indian name be?

I vote for "Cherry-Assed Loud Mouth".

	08-05-2005 11:22									#21
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BeBro will you take charge of my harem??? Bitte????

	08-05-2005 11:22									#22
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Shuddup Wife-Makes-Him-Look-Ugly.

	08-05-2005 11:24									#23
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Me, my Indian name would be Mauled By Bears.

	08-05-2005 11:26									#24
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Well, at least I'm not in NZ. I'd rather be scalped than eaten by Maoris.

edit: 100 AD. No Maoris – rather I get pecked to death by giant birds (the moa).

	08-05-2005 11:34									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker BeBro will you take charge of my harem??? Bitte????

Of course

	08-05-2005 11:42									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Zulu Elephant Yeah because, as a load of people who spend far too much time playing computer games a posting on the internet, we are JUST the sort of people you would expect to find it easy to branch out into cannon making

.....no, because alot of apolytonites are college grads and work in technical fields and have a good knowledge of chemistry.... AND are also coincodentally, history buffs so have some basic knowledge of cannon design .

	08-05-2005 11:46									#27
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If you have a cannon, you can use it to hunt Wisconsin White Tailed Deer.

	08-05-2005 11:47									#28
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quote: Originally posted by VJ Ok smart guy Vesayen: As a typical Apolyton user, would you like to share with us the exact method of refining gunpowder, the material fundamentally required for the use of cannons (without the help of almighty Google, which you can't really use if you're stuck in the year 100)? EDIT: Just for **** and giggles, I'd also like to hear how Lancer would try to manufacture gunpowder if he'd be following his gut feeling?

I don't need gunpowder, black powder is way easier to make.

Get some sulfur which is easy to find. MAKE my own damn charchoal by heating wooden ashes and find a source of saltpeter(pottasium nitrate).


3/4'ths part potasium nitrate, and one fourth parts charchol and sulpher...

Mix them all together using water(so its less likley to blow up in my face), let it dry.


Metal working, is easy. Everything I learned from having a grandfather as a carpenter and highschool shop class will tell me what I need to know. Bronze is not the ideal(sic-crappy) material for a cannon, but it will do. Build a forge, melt down copper and tin-both of which are relativley to easy find... melt it down. Make a clay mold..... metal working, is easy.


I am 110% confident I could build a functional cannon.

	08-05-2005 11:51									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If you have a cannon, you can use it to hunt Wisconsin White Tailed Deer.

I didn't post my plan .

I think massive explosions from black powder mixed with improved agricultural techniques would be all I would need to get the local indian tribes behind me.

	08-05-2005 11:51									#30
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Anyone can build a howitzer.

http://www.buckstix.com/HowitzerTools.htm