10-05-2005 23:32									#91
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quote: It is amazing how the views of OBL and commies seem to conicide on many issues. Their common ground includes hostility to Christianity and to America.

You forgot the gay agenda. I want to turn all Americans into homofags and make it compulsory for every American male to be cornholed by a man in makeup and a dress once a week.

And we're going to sap your mental virility by legalizing pot, and we are going to play Barbra Streisand's records 24/7 in all neigbourhoods.

	10-05-2005 23:37									#92
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Also, the Eastern Empire betrayed the West and had formed an alliance with the Turks against them.

	10-05-2005 23:39									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: It is amazing how the views of OBL and commies seem to conicide on many issues. Their common ground includes hostility to Christianity and to America. You forgot the gay agenda. I want to turn all Americans into homofags and make it compulsory for every American male to be cornholed by a man in makeup and a dress once a week. And we're going to sap your mental virility by legalizing pot, and we are going to play Barbra Streisand's records 24/7 in all neigbourhoods.

Well, commies and al Qa'ida may have a few points in disagreement. But, you can be allies regardless, just like the US and the USSR in WWII.

	10-05-2005 23:41									#94
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Funny that... I don't remember the commies ever being in league with OBL. The United States of America on the other hand...

	10-05-2005 23:45									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Funny that... I don't remember the commies ever being in league with OBL. The United States of America on the other hand...

Just look at the mass demonstrations in Germany or England for that matter. You see commies and radical muslims in alliance.

	10-05-2005 23:46									#96
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No-one cares for the opinions of either, thankfully.

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	10-05-2005 23:49									#97
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I'd like to know if any communist party has provided material support to OBL at all, or at least on the level the US government did in the 1980s.

Americans complaining about people supporting Bin Laden when they did so themselves when it suited them.

	10-05-2005 23:53									#98
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Agathon, no doubt the US supported OBL when he was fighting communism in Afghanistan. Why you would deny a similar relationship between communism and radical Islam today when the radical Islamic's are now targeting America is beyond me. Your alliance is obvious.

	11-05-2005 00:05									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Or the Patriot, where the Brits murdered American wounded and burned the American women and children in a barn just like the good NAZI's they were.

I haven't seen it. Is it the one where there aren't any black slaves, just 'free men'?

quote: Sandman, why you and Osama are indistinguishable in your views!

You've got some sort of problem perceiving more than two ideologies, Ned. Fascists, Europeans, Islamic fundamentalists, communists, democrats... you're incapable of distinguishing between them.

	11-05-2005 00:07									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Or the Patriot, where the Brits murdered American wounded and burned the American women and children in a barn just like the good NAZI's they were.

My god that movie sucked ass.

	11-05-2005 00:08									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker He thought the turtles represented stoners and that the movie was advocating their lifestyle

Utter lunacy.

So where did the Anti-Americanism fit in? It wasn't because it was set in Australia, was it?

	11-05-2005 00:10									#102
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I forget, but I think the drug stuff was part of it - like it would sabotage America's youth or something.

	11-05-2005 00:14									#103
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It was anti-American because there was one throw away line about Americans always trying to buy things. Penned by OBL himself, I tell you!

	11-05-2005 00:20									#104
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That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Now I'm convinced more than ever that Ned suffers from some form of paranoid dementia.

	11-05-2005 00:21									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Also, the Eastern Empire betrayed the West and had formed an alliance with the Turks against them.

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

	11-05-2005 00:22									#106
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quote: Agathon, no doubt the US supported OBL when he was fighting communism in Afghanistan. Why you would deny a similar relationship between communism and radical Islam today when the radical Islamic's are now targeting America is beyond me. Your alliance is obvious.

Even if it were, does that make us any worse than you?

	11-05-2005 00:41									#107
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Reading this thread and Ned's posts makes me think that the movie is much closer to actual history than I first though .

	11-05-2005 00:53									#108
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Imran, you are godless heathen. Don't you know that Satan is marshaling his armies to smite God's holy Kingdom of America (the very holy kingdom that gave the world Hustler)?

	11-05-2005 01:30									#109
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That's ok. We have the golden PSP to ward them off.

	11-05-2005 01:37									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Ned As I said, the enormous and blatant hatred of Catholicism in the movie is shocking. (But entirely welcome to the liberals both here and throughout the world; and of course, to Osama bin Laden, who shares the liberals views on many things it appears.)

I see how you are full of hatred and how you blind yourself with it.

	11-05-2005 02:46									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker My god that movie sucked ass.

Actually the Colonel Tarenton, upon who the British bad guy flunkie was obviously based did indeed murder colonial wounded and prisoners, though AFAIK he never herded colonial civilians into a church and burned it down. The British high command didn't like his methods and rebuked him. He was not killed by the Swamp Fox as depicted in the movie, but instead survived the war. He was present at Yorktown. After the surrender, Cornwallis threw the traditional post-battle feast for the officers of both sides. He made a point of not inviting Tarenton.

	11-05-2005 02:48									#112
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Didn't one of the colonial irregular units do something really heinous? I forget which side they were on, but I thought there was a massacre in South Carolina.

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	11-05-2005 03:11									#115
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara

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	11-05-2005 03:13									#116
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quote: You've got some sort of problem perceiving more than two ideologies, Ned. Fascists, Europeans, Islamic fundamentalists, communists, democrats... you're incapable of distinguishing between them.

Ned only knows two ideologies. His (everything at the right of Spiro Agnew(sp?)) and the rest of us.

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You spelled it right, Heuijj.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Didn't one of the colonial irregular units do something really heinous? I forget which side they were on, but I thought there was a massacre in South Carolina.

That was Tarenton's cavalry unit. Cavalry was rather rare in the American Revolution. Tarenton commanded a unit of Tory cavalry and had developed effective tactics against American units. Basically he'd engage the colonials with infantry, then as front line troops were tied down he'd select some colonial militia to focus his cavalry attack. At this time in history well trained infantry could easily fend off virtually any cavalry force by forming into squares. Horses won't charge into tightly packed masses of men. Poorly trained militia men would often break ranks and run. Tarenton was famous for having ordered his men to never give quarter to rebels. His brutality angered both the British and the colonials, so he wasn't given the support that he required.

Eventually the colonials turned his tactics against him. A green militia unit was left exposed to bait him during a battle. His cavalry charged and the militia retreated, but as his horsemen approached the colonial lines they found that trained units had manuevered in a manner to turn the vacant spot into a killing ground of crossfire. Tarenton's cavalry was virtually annhilated. Cornwallis blamed Tarenton for having cause him to lose a crucial battle for ther control of North Carolina and refused to give him another field command. The loss of North Catolina forced Cornwallis to retreat to Yorktown, Virginia. At Yorktown Cornwallis placed him in command of a fort guarding the opposite side of the river, because he couldn't stand to have Tarenton anywhere near him.

	11-05-2005 04:01									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Now I'm convinced more than ever that Ned suffers from some form of paranoid dementia.

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	11-05-2005 04:16									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij quote: You've got some sort of problem perceiving more than two ideologies, Ned. Fascists, Europeans, Islamic fundamentalists, communists, democrats... you're incapable of distinguishing between them. Ned only knows two ideologies. His (everything at the right of Spiro Agnew(sp?)) and the rest of us.

At least Spiro had a good turn of phrase.

But he was morally/logically bankrupt.