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AGRICOLA
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Canadian bush & Florida
Feb 2003
time: 00:20
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I see no reason why Germany should not be able to build the Bomb. However, there is already a potential problem with American nukes.
The US can get the bomb tech by discovering 14 new techs. With an initial research rate of ~2 techs every 3 turns (80% science and max Einsteins) and paying monthly expenses from its large initial treasury, the US can start building bombs in early to mid '42, thereby completely screwing up the scen. Using nukes will create pollution (normal pollution has been turned off) and subsequent global warming (not turned off).
May I suggest that one of the prerequisites for the Manhattan be made an non-researchable tech that is doled out by events at a historically appropriate time.
Edit: Sorry, partial cross post.
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curtsibling
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of the Kill!
May 2002
time: 05:20
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA 1. The trade arrows are the same color as the food icons.
2. RRII are too faint to be seen easily. This also applies to the game map where, IMO, the RRII's should be darker than RR's.
3. The red markings which indicate that a square is in use by another city are too cluttered. I would suggest removing the X in the centre and make the entire perimeter of the square red or, preferably, white. That way one can more easily see what is in the square. |
The trade arrow and RR situation will be looked into...
About the square border cursor, remember that it doubles as the game cursor too, but I reckon it could be simplified.
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA I've edited the PEOPLE file with icons from another scen. IMO, most of of the people look like nearly identical, unshaven vagrants from a police lineup. For example, the entertainer (US) is at first glance identical to one of the contented US citizens because the “MP” on its helmet is faint and yellow as opposed to the bold white letters on actual MP helmets. The same holds true for some of the other civs. The beancounters and Einsteins look like hit men from one of Eivind's Mafia mobs and their icons show nothing that might indicate their fields of expertise. It would also help a great deal if the background colors were different for happy, content and unhappy citizens as well as for each type of specialist. |
Don't worry, this is the old version people file, I am working on a new one for the final release.
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA I think that in order to be consistent with other civs, Roosevelt and Hirohito should be the heads of state for the US and Japan. I can live with Tojo but Eisenhower seems to be a particularly poor choice; in 1940 he was either a colonel or brigadier general, not a head of state. |
The name is for not the head of states, but the military commanders.
True Hitler also did not take command of the German army till 1941 (bad luck for the wehrmacht) but I included him anyway.
That said, I might make some changes in this regard - I wonder who could make a viable leader for the commonwealth?
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA This has been mentioned before. The complete absence of any intelligence on other civs seems a bit unreal. By all means eliminate all communication with other civs but please consider reinstating the Foreign Minister’s report so that there is a very moderate amount of info for it and for the Demographics pulldown. It is interesting to see if one is making any progress against ones enemies. There is always a certain amount of intelligence available, even in wartime. |
This is a symptom of cutting communication with the civs. There is no 'turn off diplomacy' switch.
Even when I put units in contact or turn on contact in the diplo scen tools, the diplo (F3) screen is gone.
Not sure why this is...Maybe a ToT feature. I knew in MGE you could stop civs talking but still have the screen.
Anyone with ToT experience know what causes this?
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA I realize that you don’t have much "wiggle" room for unit A/D’s but some of the numbers could be seriously questioned, such as the identical A’s of battle cruisers (13" guns) and battleships (14"- 16" guns) and the identical A/D of the Russian I-16 and the Japanese Zero. The one was obsolete in 1940 while the other was a world class fighter. |
Well, the warships have been changed back to CIV2 standards. The Polikarpov has been changed too, based on game testing of my own.
If you look at the hits and fire power ratings of both these fighters now, the Zero has twice the potency of the Polikarpov.
These are the current ratings:
A6M2 Zero, SFl, 1, 6.,2, 4a,4d, 2h,2f, 7,0, 3, Fli, 000000001010001
I-16 Polikarpov, AFl, 1, 4.,2, 4a,4d, 1h,1f, 5,0, 1, Rad, 000000001010001
I know which one I would rather defend my cities with!
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA I really regret to say this when I'm about to start playing the US, but I have a feeling that the US civ may be a bit too powerful. It is just a gut feel and is based on the three great wonders that they have . . . . Pyramids, Adam Smith, Michaelangelo . . . . their large initial treasury and their seeming immunity to the unhappiness due to absent units, bombers or nukes that usually plagues a democracy. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. |
Well, there was not many mass national-riots in the US in WW2! 
This was a gameplay choice I had to make, the US AI was being held back under a democracy, as it had to send out so many units it
was cutting back on it's production to make entertainers. I made the democracies use the communist government to represent the
lack of corruption, without the crushing mood problems in the democracy government.
The US AI will give you a good fight, that was my intention. Someone has to stop the 3rd Reich if the paste Russia!
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Originally posted by AGRICOLA Finally, I am nearly apoplectic that Canadian units are on US soil near Boston and Pittsburgh at the start of the scen. We Americans won the War of 1812  so either send the damned intruders back to where they belong or we’ll torch Ottawa. Fortunately, the Mexicans appear to be more respectful of US territory so there are no current plans to send marines to level the Halls of Montezuma. |
You'd think the US being whipped three times in a row trying to invade Canada would keep the dastardly Canucks in place!
Well, I will see about moving those unit away, as they serve not much purpose anyway...
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curtsibling
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of the Kill!
May 2002
time: 05:20
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BTW:
Based on Agricola's advice I am going to increase the road
movement multiplier to 6, as opposed to 3...Does this sound OK?
Last edited by curtsibling on 22-05-2005 at 17:16
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Leonidas
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Curt:
Glad to see that you are still working on these great scenarios.
heheh
There are so many excellent scenarios, I think it will take years before I can play them all.
Cheers!
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Arthedain
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Dúnedain of the north
Apr 2002
time: 06:20
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Hmm, I just gave the old playtest a try. I said I would try the commonwealth but the Third Reich was too irresistible.
It's now January 1942, I've just researched Operation Barbarossa, however, not at war with the Soviets yet (is it supposed to be like that?). Brittain has fallen, and I've driven the brits out of north africa (including Abyssynia) and even out of the Middle East (only Aden left). Rommel and his Afrika corps have just captured Shiraz and are on their way to India. After the capture of Brittain and Ireland, I sent an expedition to Iceland, and after capturing it, it was sent to Greenland. Malta has given up, as the hardest nut to crack, Gibraltar.
My Polish front is packed with units ready to invade Soviet.
This scenario is, as stated before, really excellent. I have sacrifised tons of troops, mostly in England, and tons of planes attacking Gibraltar. I realised quickly that the infantry was really helpfull in attack cities. My main concern is the AI fleets. The U.S fleet only gave me little trouble in the start, but after luckily sinking a stack they didn't attack me often. I just checked the map via the cheat menu and it looks like their whole fleet is just sailing towards Monrovia (including EMPTY transports). I don't know if you can do much about this. They have landed troops that are on their way to Libya though.
AI stupidity, what can you do? 
I think I will try out the new patch with a different civ this time. Probably the U.S
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22-05-2005 15:06
During the development of DST, Koby was playing with limiting options in various Game.txt menus (e.g. @EMISSARY, @GREETINGSxx, etc.), but that's a Pandora's box. Occasionally Civ2 will pull a reply out of Labels.txt rather than Game.txt, and that can't be edited out.
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