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I'm thinking of starting a new thread......homosexuals deserve to die. Blacks deserve to die. Jews deserve to die. Oh, and any other religion come to that. Yeah, they should all die.

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Verres, why do you try and justify yourself to this guy?


Trolls I can cope with, but people who say **** like that and actually believe it? I know he's trying to get a rise out of me and I'm responding how he wants, but I can't let this go.

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My point: If you are not a drunk slut and don't have any liver problems, then why on earth are you going to kill yourself (that's what this discussion is all about, isn't it?)?...

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No. Try reading the thread instead of randomly insulting me, then you may be in a better position to comment.

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I've read it (this?) three times now, twice with a thought again after you said that you were not going to kill yourself over liver problems which conflicts with your few initial posts.

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I don't really understand what's your problem IRL; I mean if you truly want to end your life ASAP, why not sacrifice your life for something bigger than you are and join the British army, FFL or something? Life is a gift, why to waste it without contributing anything with it? Weird attitude.

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No. I attempted suicide unsucessfully several times in the past, most recently on Friday. Despite failing, I have developed liver problems as a result - something I discovered last night, which was the reason for my post.

At no point in this thread have I said I was going to kill myself, in fact I said I wanted to live in the OP.

How you managed to bring a relationship that died nearly a year ago is still a mystery to me.

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At no point in this thread have I said I was going to kill myself, in fact I said I wanted to live in the OP.

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Don't even try it. Nothing quite like permanent liver damage to make you really want to live again.


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I just wanted to express a)how stupid I've been and b)what a crap thing it is to do.


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OD's are the most stupid, stupid thing in the world.


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I shall not be doing it again in a hurry

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I attempted suicide unsucessfully several times in the past, most recently on Friday.


As in 8 days ago?

VJ, your actions have crossed the line into the criminal. We can only hope that you, too, will run across your own "VJ" in those times of your life when you, too, are down.

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As in 8 days ago?


No, yesterday.....I posted here in the early hours of saturday uk time.

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This is the worst thing to ever happen to me. No alcohol. Ever.


Trust me, it's not.

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VJ, your actions have crossed the line into the criminal. We can only hope that you, too, will run across your own "VJ" in those times of your life when you, too, are down.



This place is more evil than I've usually thought.

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No, yesterday.....I posted here in the early hours of saturday uk time.


Verres, I'm so sorry. I don't know what to say.

However, and I say this with the mindset of somebody who also is completely unable to drink, not drinking isn't the worst thing in the world...

1. You save a **** load of money. If you smoke and quit that **** too, you save thou$and$ per year. (I used to smoke so I threw that one in as a bonus. )

2. No hangovers.

3. No regrets.

4. No blackouts, no wondering "what did I do last night?"

5. No bad decisions that are alcohol induced.

6. A greatly reduced chance of being in compromising situations. ****, I'll just say it: a greatly reduced chance of being raped.

7. You won't have to worry about your car, or driving after drinking.

8. You're head will be clearer. Don't forget that alcohol is a depressant. Not exactly the sort of stuff you should be imbibing, you know...

9. No worries, now or in the future, of whether you're drinking too much.

Yeah, it's fun. So is going to the movies, playing with your kids (likely not relevant in your situation, but just wait - it's a blast), listening to music, etc etc etc etc. In time, you'll be surprised as to how little you miss it.

I'm serious, Verres. This is one cloud that's all silver lining.

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You're right JohnT, I haven't really looked at it logically yet but no alcohol ain't always a bad thing. Being a student makes it more challenging as I am sadly a firm member of the all-male heavy drinking crowd....but on the other hand I am more likely to leave with a decent degree if I find some slightly less inebriated friends

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Well done JohnT, very good advice.

VJ,

On the other hand, why are you such a ***** all of the time? Do you get off on this stuff?

Does your Dad tell you how worthless you are so you have to take it out on other people?

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You're right JohnT, I haven't really looked at it logically yet but no alcohol ain't always a bad thing. Being a student makes it more challenging as I am sadly a firm member of the all-male heavy drinking crowd....but on the other hand I am more likely to leave with a decent degree if I find some slightly less inebriated friends


Believe it or not, there are plenty of students out there who don't drink.

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Evil people dying


If you genuinely think it's good, open a vein. You qualify.

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Unfortunatley it can't find a heart for VJ.

I even tried Froggle.

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Found it.


Thanks for the lead.

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I've always found nature the best drug i get of on. So its possible to find something for you in place of alcohol, and as has been mentioned, not drinking is mostly plus points

I had friends ages ago who were big into drugs etc. I always found it slightly disturbing they needed to be 'out of it' as much as they did. Reality may suck, and for some people worse than others, but at the end of the day you have the power to live the reality you choose to live. If other people are making your life hell then F**k them, cut them out and move on with your life(like listening to VJ's poison in this instance).

There are so many wonderful things in this life worth living for to see and take part in. Just take the time to find the ones for you.

For me, as i mentioned its nature - it really grounds me when the whole world seems like its going no-where, fresh air, trees, peace and quiet, animals.

Also i travelled the world on the cheap, meeting people of different cultures and shareing with them.

Sunrise in the desserts of Jordan with a bedwin family, seing in New year on the top of the great pyramid in Egypt, Eating crab with my tribe on the beach in Papua New Guinea.

Verres, there are many many wonderful things that make life worth living, so just work out what yours are and things will turn out fine, they really will, with or without alcohol

Hmmm. I wish i could show you these things - but for each person they are a little different. I hardly drink and its never left me feeling like i've lost out on something. I just look at what it does to other people and know i made the right choice.

It wasn't an easy thing - i'm a rugby player/ex boxer etc, not a typical candidate by any strecth

Listen - good luck, stay well and come back and tell us what the good things in life for you are. Everything is possible, happiness most definately so. I had to battle with my demons during my life, but the hard fight paid off - i'm pretty indestructable these days and its in everyone to do the same.

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I just have to say that with that kind of attitude, VJ will probably himself be headed for grave psychological problems in the future. No respect for others -> no respect for oneself.

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If medication isn't working or religion, or therapy it is unlikely that you have a problem in the sense that there's something wrong with you. Try philosophy instead – Epictetus is a good start.

I think Gaugin said: "Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge."


But what is known about Epictetus except from him being mentioned in writings from other people... He never wrote anything himself?

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Believe it or not, there are plenty of students out there who don't drink.


Yes, but the best moments are late at night when everybody is well wasted and you're having fun simply talking nonsense...

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My point: If you are not a drunk slut and don't have any liver problems, then why on earth are you going to kill yourself (that's what this discussion is all about, isn't it?)?...


I have had the thought of killing myself 100000 times already, due to this backache that I've been having nearly constantly for years and years... Living in pain is hell

I'm not going to do it though, I realize that I live in a place with a lot of luxury and that there are a lot of people who are off worse than I am

 
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