21-05-2005 00:34									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Texas is addicted to farm subsidies? Since when?

Cotton is huge business in Texas and those boys sure do love their subsides.

	21-05-2005 00:38									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Ned BTW, I have no idea why the Canadians continue to occupy Quebec. They ought to return it to France. The people of Q really don't like the English. It is obvious.

	21-05-2005 00:42									#93
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I seriously doubt there are Québecois who want to become part of France. How many English Canadians want to be governed from London?

	21-05-2005 00:44									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Would be good for European Union's further expansion into North America too....

That will be the day.

The next logical step for NAFTA is the free movement of labor. We already have free movement of goods and the free movement of capital so labor is the last road block. Ideally, some sort of deal will be worked out so that one border patrol agency covered all three countries so that drug smuggling and people smuggling could be jointly controlled.

	21-05-2005 00:49									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I seriously doubt there are Québecois who want to become part of France. How many English Canadians want to be governed from London?

They don't want to part of France. A minority want to be independent but the reality is the Quebec would be non-economically viable or at least more marginal then the wider Canadian state.

It does strike me as two faced that the English paqrts of Canada have to have French signs even though there are virtually no native French speakers in those areas. Compared to Quebec where all signs are in French and where a significant part of the population are native English speakers.

	21-05-2005 01:59									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin That will be the day.

You know the North East is just longing to join the socialist Utopia. Then the domino theory kicks in, leaving just the south to rise again, just as they always said they would.

	21-05-2005 03:36									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I seriously doubt there are Québecois who want to become part of France. How many English Canadians want to be governed from London?

Governered from? Surely you jest. Q is no longer a colony, but an equal partner.

	21-05-2005 03:51									#98
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Wales is supposedly an equal partner to England. Still largely governed from London though.

	21-05-2005 04:09									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Governered from? Surely you jest. Q is no longer a colony, but an equal partner.

France is a centralized country. For Québec to be an equal partner to France, Québec would have to be an independant nation (which is what the independantist Québecois want, incidentally )

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor The French are much loser than the Québecois on the issue.

	21-05-2005 05:09									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Some years ago, I visited Canada and journeyed into the French speaking part of Canada. All the signs were in French and I had a very hard time getting around or doing anything.

You had a hard time figuring out the difference between "Dorchester Blvd" and "Boul. Dorchester"?

	21-05-2005 05:10									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin It does strike me as two faced that the English paqrts of Canada have to have French signs even though there are virtually no native French speakers in those areas. Compared to Quebec where all signs are in French and where a significant part of the population are native English speakers.

I don't know where people get that info, that's just false.

	21-05-2005 06:43									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin the reality is the Quebec would be non-economically viable

	21-05-2005 06:58									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris You had a hard time figuring out the difference between "Dorchester Blvd" and "Boul. Dorchester"?

Perhaps because they've changed it to Boul. René Lévesque.

	21-05-2005 07:06									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu

Laugh all you like but don't come crying to the big bad US when your Quebec Dollar turns out to be the peso of the north.

Quebec sucks up a ton of subsidies from the Candian Federal government so it looks better off then it really is but if those subsidies stopped (and they would stop if the independence crowd got what they wanted) then propare to see schools close, roads go unrepaired, and police forces slashed.

	21-05-2005 07:12									#106
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Canada can't prevent Quebec from keeping the C$.

	21-05-2005 09:05									#107
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You would be amazed how many road blocks a government can create if it wants to.

	21-05-2005 22:41									#108
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Spiff, I am sure you could work out the details on a reunion. As to Q wanting to be independent, I would think that would depend on how you asked the question. If you asked them "from whom?", you might learn a little more about their real asperations.

But, is there anything fundamentally incompatible in between the legal systems of Canada and France that would prevent the Quebecers and French from forming a single country?

	21-05-2005 23:00									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Spiff, I am sure you could work out the details on a reunion. As to Q wanting to be independent, I would think that would depend on how you asked the question. If you asked them "from whom?", you might learn a little more about their real asperations.

Independence Ned. The word says it.

quote: But, is there anything fundamentally incompatible in between the legal systems of Canada and France that would prevent the Quebecers and French from forming a single country?

The incompatibility does not lie in the legal systems. I don't see why the french would be interested in such a relationship, but i can assure you that we sure are not.

	22-05-2005 02:24									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu Independence Ned. The word says it. The incompatibility does not lie in the legal systems. I don't see why the french would be interested in such a relationship, but i can assure you that we sure are not.

Alright, why? A lot of Americans could see the Brits and the US re-united, but on some basis of equality.

	22-05-2005 02:46									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Alright, why? A lot of Americans could see the Brits and the US re-united, but on some basis of equality.

I doubt there are that many, on either side of the pound, who would see the US and the UK unite.
As for Quebec's situation, i cannot see one single reason why we would want to do that.
You say: "why not?" I say:"why?"
What could we possibly gain from any type of association with France?

	22-05-2005 04:22									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Alright, why? A lot of Americans could see the Brits and the US re-united, but on some basis of equality.

I'd bet the only way most USians could see us "reuniting" is if they became the 52nd state.

	22-05-2005 04:36									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You would be amazed how many road blocks a government can create if it wants to.

Quebec is Canada's second trading partner, a signatory of NAFTA, and you think they'd embargo us as if we were Cuba?

Besides, that doesn't solve the problem of the C$ - roadblocks don't prevent money from flowing through bank accounts.

	22-05-2005 04:37									#114
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	22-05-2005 05:06									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Alright, why? A lot of Americans could see the Brits and the US re-united, but on some basis of equality.

Oh, that's just silly. We're 6 times larger and have an economy better than 15 times larger. California has a larger economy.

	22-05-2005 05:08									#116
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Actually, the California bit and 15 times larger one are false.

	22-05-2005 07:56									#117
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but not by much.

	22-05-2005 08:07									#118
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Errr... The GDP per capita in the US might be 10 or 15% higher than that of Britain.

Considering a 60m vs 300m population, that would mean America's GDP is at best 6 times that of Britain, not 15.

	23-05-2005 23:26									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I'd bet the only way most USians could see us "reuniting" is if they became the 52nd state.

Or 4 states.

I suspect they could live with that if we could live with the Brit royal family in some fashion.

	23-05-2005 23:29									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu I doubt there are that many, on either side of the pound, who would see the US and the UK unite. As for Quebec's situation, i cannot see one single reason why we would want to do that. You say: "why not?" I say:"why?" What could we possibly gain from any type of association with France?

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