19-05-2005 19:05									#31
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quote: 4. I got a kick out of how Mace Windu turned Sidious' dark side lightning back on the bastard, aging him 30 years in seconds. Of course, then Anakin showed up, cut Windu's arm off, and Sidious finished the Jedi master off with a blast of lightning.

spoiler(highlight to read): Thanks for the spoiler warning...

	19-05-2005 22:46									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: 4. I got a kick out of how Mace Windu turned Sidious' dark side lightning back on the bastard, aging him 30 years in seconds. Of course, then Anakin showed up, cut Windu's arm off, and Sidious finished the Jedi master off with a blast of lightning. spoiler(highlight to read): Thanks for the spoiler warning...

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Drake Tungsten:

I'm not taking your crap on this. Do you know how to read? Apparently not. This, from the f*cking thread title:

quote: Post your Revenge of the Sith Reviews and Commentary here!

I know you don't know this, but I've had a horrible week — my father had a heart attack and a dear co-worker died of rapid-spreading cancer after being diagnosed less than a two weeks ago.

Suffice to say, your being "spoiled" in a thread whose title clearly marked it as such is of trivial concern to me.

Good day.

Gatekeeper

	19-05-2005 22:55									#33
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you have my sympathy, Gatekeeper

	19-05-2005 22:57									#34
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Sorry to hear about your father, Gate. And the co-worker as well.

And yes - since this thread is clearly about the movie, coupled with the fact that I specifically asked for reviews and commentary, spoiler boxes are unecessary. As long as we're talking about Star Wars films, of course...

	19-05-2005 23:09									#35
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Do they explain why Darth needs his heavy breathing equipment? How his head got so big and pasty? How he lost his hand?

	19-05-2005 23:51									#36
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He lost his hand last movie.

	20-05-2005 00:25									#37
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MrFun, JohnT:

Your thoughts are much appreciated.

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Lancer:

Anakin lost his hand to Darth Tyrannus in Episode II. It's explained in Episode III how Anakin came to need the heavy breathing equipment to live, and how his head became so monstrous.

A few more thoughts on Episode III:

13. The part about Qui-Gon's individual essence surviving on in the Force felt tacked-on to me, as it was mentioned by Yoda only in the last minute or so of the movie, and Qui-Gon himself never appears as a Force ghost.

14. Insofar as I can tell, Palpatine told the truth only *once* during the movie, and that was when he told Anakin that, in his rage, he killed Padme Amidala. Which he did — he killed her will to live, and she died moments after giving birth to Luke and Leia. Palpatine is definitely a master manipulator. That or everyone around him are imbeciles. Probably a bit of both.

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	20-05-2005 00:38									#38
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quote: ... she died moments after giving birth to Luke and Leia.

Er... didn't Leia mention remembering her mother in ROTJ?

	20-05-2005 00:52									#39
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Another bit of commentary:

The introduction of "Episode" numbers, and the renaming of certain films, is as much an insult to the intelligence of the audience as is the character of Jar-Jar. The fact that these two things occurred during the same movie is even more fitting.

	20-05-2005 00:55									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper 13. The part about Qui-Gon's individual essence surviving on in the Force felt tacked-on to me, as it was mentioned by Yoda only in the last minute or so of the movie, and Qui-Gon himself never appears as a Force ghost.

Well remember it was Qui-Gon's voice shouting 'no' when Anakin massacred the sandpeople in episode 2.

	20-05-2005 01:25									#41
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Can episode 2 be rented? I'm thinking maybe I fell asleep or something...missed alot.

	20-05-2005 01:45									#42
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LOVED IT!

What a fabulous movie! As I was saying, all the prequals were leading up to this and it sure did not dissapoint. The CGI which looked somewhat cheesy back in TPM is jaw dropping here. This is the best looking movie I've ever seen. It blows LOTR trilogy out of the water. The action is non stop and the dialogue isn't bad (as good as the original trilogy). McGregor is perfect as Obi-Wan, Christensen plays Anakin well, and McDiamid is excellent as Palpatine.

I would have liked to have seen Anakin's fall more streached out, but the movie was over 2 hours as it was! That said, I was satisfied that keeping Padme alive turned him.

And I like the visual touches at the end. Padme's burial procession shows that they faked the twins dying when Padme did.

And how much fun to see a proto-Death Star?

I'd have to say this is perhaps the best Star Wars movie aside from ESB.

I give it an A!

quote: The part about Qui-Gon's individual essence surviving on in the Force felt tacked-on to me, as it was mentioned by Yoda only in the last minute or so of the movie, and Qui-Gon himself never appears as a Force ghost.

el freako is correct. Qui-Gon was screaming NO as Anakin killed the Sandpeople when Yoda was meditating.

quote: Insofar as I can tell, Palpatine told the truth only *once* during the movie, and that was when he told Anakin that, in his rage, he killed Padme Amidala. Which he did ��he killed her will to live, and she died moments after giving birth to Luke and Leia. Palpatine is definitely a master manipulator. That or everyone around him are imbeciles. Probably a bit of both.

Yep, like the aging of Palpy by Windu's deflection. It seemed like he planned it that way. To make him seem even MORE weak, thus having Anakin 'save' him and to show the Senate that the Jedi tried to kill him.

quote: Er... didn't Leia mention remembering her mother in ROTJ?

Leia was born second, so I guess that is where that comes from... remember Leia is force sensitive as well.

quote: The introduction of "Episode" numbers, and the renaming of certain films, is as much an insult to the intelligence of the audience as is the character of Jar-Jar. The fact that these two things occurred during the same movie is even more fitting.

Actually the introduction of Episode numbers was in ESB, which was called Episode V.

(Link of your pwnage at SDMB saying the same thing):
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...ad.php?t=317349

You bring up a good point though. So many people rant and rave about Greedo shooting first... what about the addition of Episodes and calling "Star Wars", "A New Hope"?

Oh, and for all the haters of the changes, "midichlorians" are mentioned again .

	20-05-2005 01:53									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Can episode 2 be rented? I'm thinking maybe I fell asleep or something...missed alot.

If your local movie store still has copies, sure.

	20-05-2005 02:15									#44
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I just got back from watching it.

Lucas finally did it. Great movie that tied in the first three with the second three (although it was a little corny at times).

A big from me!

	20-05-2005 02:18									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Some quick observations (I just came back from the midnight showing): That's about it for now ... Gatekeeper

I read the first couple of lines of your post... Could you please remove the spoilers? Some of us haven't seen the movie yet.

	20-05-2005 02:21									#46
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Now you are purposely being an ass .

	20-05-2005 02:58									#47
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Damn... reading online, I just realized I missed Lucas' cameo. Oh well, that'll be my... um... reason to pay another $6.50 to see it again .

	20-05-2005 03:55									#48
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1st half-hour are so was good, nothing spectacular. The space battle was impressive but failed to capture my imagination. Dooku was disposed of awfully fast.

The only way this film went was up and up though. The fight against General Grievous was fantastic. Even the dialogue wasn't too bad this time, with Senator Palpatine excellent in his seduction of Skywalker to the Dark Side. As for the Order 66 scenes... gut-wrenching, but just the drama I needed to see.

And Yoda, just when the galaxy needs him the most, vanishes, clearly seeing that the writing is on the wall. He could have taken the Emperor - hell, Mace Windu did most of the hard work against him. Just when the galaxy needs him the most the little green runt goes on a runner to Dagobah!

Brilliant movie, a bit slow at the start but that's my only criticism. 9 thumbs up.

	20-05-2005 04:00									#49
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Hell, I don't think Yoda could have taken the Emperor... and Palpy took a dive against Windu to get Anakin 'turned'.

	20-05-2005 04:36									#50
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quote: Hell, I don't think Yoda could have taken the Emperor... and Palpy took a dive against Windu to get Anakin 'turned'.

I don't know... Even before Anakin came into the room it looked as though Sidious had met his match. Windu was definitely gaining the upper hand!

	20-05-2005 04:37									#51
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quote: Drake Tungsten: I'm not taking your crap on this.

Wow, I never expected that from you.

BTW, the thread title in no way implies that spoilers would be out in the open. Spoiler boxes are there so you can provided reviews and commentary (the stated purpose of this thread) without exposing readers to unwanted information.

	20-05-2005 07:56									#52
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Well John confirmed that his intention was open spoilers..

quote: Even before Anakin came into the room it looked as though Sidious had met his match. Windu was definitely gaining the upper hand!

However it may have been part of the plan. So when Anakin walks in, he sees Palpatine weakened. After all, he can read the future (well, somewhat).

	20-05-2005 08:02									#53
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Yeah, I agree with Imran. It looked like he faked his weakness, esp. when after anakin jumped in, iirc, he cackled and zapped Windu-clearly he had some reserves left.

I think they could have made Anakin more evil-especially after in the suit-I was still feeling that he could be saved, even then. He just seemed more confused and misled than pure evil, though it was what 18 years before ANH, plenty of time to work on evil.

	20-05-2005 08:24									#54
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel I think they could have made Anakin more evil-especially after in the suit-I was still feeling that he could be saved, even then. He just seemed more confused and misled than pure evil, though it was what 18 years before ANH, plenty of time to work on evil.

Well there is the theory that Vader, after finding out that Padme was dead (and he killed her), became cold emotionally and vowed to not love again. You can say that he may have died inside after learning of Padme's death... after Padme died when thinking Anakin was dead.

	20-05-2005 08:32									#55
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I went to the 1pm showing this after noon and I did try to buy tickets for last night but they were sold out. Both the 12:01am and the 3:00am showings were sold out. Can you believe that?

Even today the theater was packed with a ton of people who were obviously playiing Wookie-hookie.

	20-05-2005 08:36									#56
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Over all the movie was pretty good but the end didn't seem flow as well as it could have. There is no explination as to why Darth Vader's outfit was styled the way it was or how jedis who can read people's minds can be caught so completely by surprise.

	20-05-2005 08:40									#57
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quote: There is no explination as to why Darth Vader's outfit was styled the way it was

Aroo? Why did you want an explination of why Vader's outfit looked the way it did?

quote: or how jedis who can read people's minds can be caught so completely by surprise.

Shock of their own troops turning on them. That was my thought. They lost their focus when they realized their allies 5 minutes before were shooting at them.

And can most Jedi read people's minds? I thought they can 'see' actions or 'feel' when something is amiss, but not read minds. The only one I can think of is when Vader learns from Luke that he had a sister.

	20-05-2005 08:42									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Do they explain why Darth needs his heavy breathing equipment? How his head got so big and pasty? How he lost his hand?

Yeah, Obiwan chops off his legs and his arm then Anakin's clothes catch on fire from the lava and he's badly burned. I'm still scratching my head wondering why Obiwan walks away before Anakin is dead since his sole mission was to go kill Anakin.

	20-05-2005 08:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: There is no explination as to why Darth Vader's outfit was styled the way it was Aroo? Why did you want an explination of why Vader's outfit looked the way it did?

It was just kind of weird that the Emperor had it all ready to go and it was totally different from everything else so it made me wonder.

	20-05-2005 08:45									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Yeah, Obiwan cops off his legs and his arm then Anakin's clothes catch on fire from the lava and he's badly burned. I'm still scratching my head wondering why Obiwan walks away before Anakin is dead since his sole mission was to go kill Anakin.

He probably thinks there is no way he's going to survive (doesn't know that Palpatine realizes that he is in trouble... without that he would have died). And he wouldn't kill him while he is dying... that would be something a Sith would do.