22-05-2005 08:13									#1
	SimCity4 RH MP Game, revisited Got spare money?

Anyone up for another bout of the "multiplayer" Simcity 4 we used to play around here?

I'd be in...

teh Edit: Link to previous game, for those who don't know what I'm talking about : http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...light=Rush+Hour

	22-05-2005 16:00									#2
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I might be interested... and then I might not

* Adagio keeps an eye on this thread

	26-05-2005 06:45									#3
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I recently obtained a copy of simcity 4 + rush hour and may be interested in playing.

	26-05-2005 06:53									#4
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Well, that's two, not much though...

Where are the others? Tassi? Ludd?

	26-05-2005 07:12									#5
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Is 1.1.638.0 the newest version?

	26-05-2005 07:32									#6
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I honestly don't know, it's been so long since I dealt with the official patches...

	07-06-2005 18:26									#7
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quote: Originally posted by EPW I recently obtained a copy of simcity 4 + rush hour and may be interested in playing.

Same.

Also, when i tried to install that .638 patch it didn't overwrite all files, i got some errors...the game is still functional though :/

	11-06-2005 09:18									#8
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One more should be enough....

	11-06-2005 10:39									#9
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Suppose i can play to make up numbers. Havent played it in a while either.

quote: Originally posted by EPW Is 1.1.638.0 the newest version?

Yeah it is.

	11-06-2005 11:00									#10
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Sure why not.

How involved will this be?

	11-06-2005 20:46									#11
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Not much. If the rules havent changed since i played with the original SC4, we all play a different region of the same city and each upload when we've played, the next player in the queue downloads all regions uploaded by other players into their own region to play, so they can do deals etc.

	12-06-2005 00:14									#12
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So you rotate it then? ie, player 1 plays his time, player 2 downloads player 1 and plays, player 3 downloads player 1 and player 2 and so on? Or am I missing something?

	12-06-2005 04:43									#13
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No I think it means that we all play one city, but we download each others' at periodic intervals.

	12-06-2005 05:10									#14
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Correct.

People interested:
1. Jonny
2. EPW
3. Lemmy
4. Maquiladora
5. Smiley
6. Atragon
7. DaShi(?)

Last edited by Jonny on 12-06-2005 at 18:12

	12-06-2005 06:29									#15
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Six should be enough, more than I expected actually.

So what region are we going to use? What difficulty? What other rules? (I assume we will not be able to do the U-drive it missions for money, its a bit cheesy in my opinion). How many years before each upload? When do we start?

	12-06-2005 06:36									#16
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*cackles maniacly*

Lucky number 7 here

	12-06-2005 06:40									#17
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Unless someone's got a special region in mind, use one of the defaults to save on the downloading. I'm partial to the San Francisco region, but I'd be fine with any as long as all players have access to water.

Difficulty: Easy.

Years before upload: Sliding scale maybe? The first run ought to be longer since not all that much happens in the beginning.

Starting: Where are files going to be hosted?

	12-06-2005 07:01									#18
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San Fran seems to have some nice possibilities

	12-06-2005 07:10									#19
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I guess we could do San Fran, though we did use that one in the first Poly Simcity game. For the second one we used one that we downloaded.

In previous games, we've used 5 year intervals between turns, though that may be too short; consider increasing to 10 years?

Another thing to consider which I've seen done elsewhere is to establish connections between the cities before play starts, so that demand sharing can start immediately; that's something to consider.

I guess we should vote on difficulty level; I normally play on hard but would vote Medium for this in order to get things moving quickly.

	12-06-2005 07:16									#20
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I suggest Medium at the hardest otherwise I will be a drain on your economies, a slum of the highest order... a veritable crime problem... that happens to provide most of the electricity for the region.

	12-06-2005 07:54									#21
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I have SC4RH and would be interested in adding Mitchopolis to your squalid slums and ratty villages

	12-06-2005 08:59									#22
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Looking at the last game's thread, 10 years sounds good, maybe 20 for the first round.

	12-06-2005 09:35									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley No I think it means that we all play one city, but we download each others' at periodic intervals.

Yeah thats what i meant to say, we only play our own regions, but share each others before we each play our turns. Just came out wrong.

I dont mind what region we play really, but something other than San Francisco would be nice. Im not big on whats available, but something with a bit of everything.

Also preferably a real map to scale, and with just enough regions to players.

	12-06-2005 12:29									#24
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Hmm. A couple years ago I made a map of the world for SimCity. It was a huge map, so it could be either resized or we could pick a particular part of the world to use.

	12-06-2005 12:43									#25
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I may play. But only if Tass does.

	12-06-2005 15:45									#26
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I'll have to pass for now, but maybe I'll join the game at some other point (if we still allow this?)

	12-06-2005 17:54									#27
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Will we use a pathfinding mod?
I find the default pathfinding horrible, it uses my streets as if they were avenues.
I downloaded one from Simtropolis, it had 2 varieties, better pathfinding and perfect pathfinding, better is easier on the CPU than perfect, but is already IMO a huge improvement over the default pathfinding.

I don't specific map i'd like to use, as long we're all connected by water and maybe roads/highways too at the beginning.
10yr interval sound good, but instead of longer intervals at the starts, maybe we should have one short interval first. The sooner we have populated neighbours the sooner we'll benefit from it.

As for dificulty, i've only played on Easy so far, wouldn't mind a challenge and play on Medium, but i don't think i'm ready for Hard yet

	12-06-2005 18:14									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy Will we use a pathfinding mod? I find the default pathfinding horrible, it uses my streets as if they were avenues. I downloaded one from Simtropolis, it had 2 varieties, better pathfinding and perfect pathfinding, better is easier on the CPU than perfect, but is already IMO a huge improvement over the default pathfinding.

Yes, that would be good... personaly I use the Network Addon Mod which contains that improved pathfinding. My plugins folder is also full with a lot of custom buildings, and I'd imagine that others have other things.

Since we all need to have the same plugins for sharing cities without problems, I suggest that we assemble a plugins folder that we all agree on, and then we can use it for this game only - that is, switch our regular plugin folder with this one when we play the Apolyton region, and then switch back for regular play. That's the way I've seen it done elsewhere...

	12-06-2005 18:49									#29
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Seeing as this will be the first real game of SimCity 4, I'm up for whatever, a short interval at the begining, perhaps 1 year, sounds like a good idea.

	12-06-2005 22:49									#30
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Yeah, I have network addon mod too...

I think 20 years is too much. First interval, 15 years, after that, 5 years.

I don't think we should have preexisting connections, they limit our creativity