24-05-2005 11:22									#1
	do we accept the following as our Clan Law? Got spare money?

Thank you one and all for your participation in the polls and threads to get us this far.

We have yet to determine which clan we will be playing in the Sengoku - Sword of the Shogun conquests Scenario.

This poll is a simple yes or no, do we accept the following as our Clan Law? This is all open to negotiation and change, so please add your thoughts.

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1. Our people are led by the Daimyo and the Samurai of the Clan

2. Each Samurai has a vote
2.1. All Samurai to be registered in The Scroll of the Samurai

3. The Daimyo is successively rolled through a list of players that are on The Eternal Scroll of Daimyos
3.1. Please feel free to add your name to the list.
3.2. The nominated player needs to be a member of the Civ 3 Demo Game Civ Group.
3.3. Names may be added to the list at any time.
3.4. If a name is added to the list after it has been rolled over, they will need to await until their Family name is called according to the list.

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The order of play:

The Initial Save is posted

The Daimyo opens a discussion thread so that the Samurai can gather and discusses the situation.

Then, if required, the Daimyo starts a poll(s) to give the Samurai a last opportunity to provide guidance before the Daimyo starting his turns

The Daimyo then goes on and plays a series of 10 turns each during the pre-daimyo era [1st], and then 5 turns during the early [2nd], late [3rd], and post [4th which is empty]

The Daimyo then comes back and:
- start a thread for their reign and in here write up a report (this can be done with assistance of other Samurai
- the save is posted in the Sacred Save thread for everyone to look over
- pictures, maps etc are posted in their Reign thread

These turn sessions can be interrupted by emergencies that need to be sort by the Samurai. Thus some sessions would only be the turns until the emergency is declared. Then the Daimyo continues until his number of turns have been completed.

The final save is posted

This ends the Daimyo’s reign

We then move the reign to the next Samurai Family that is listed on The Eternal Scroll.

If that Great Family is not able to take up the Clan, then the next Family on the list will be invited to step forward.

Once all names on the list have been exhausted, we will start at the top of the list.

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Last edited by Paddy the Scot on 26-05-2005 at 02:41

	24-05-2005 21:06									#2
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This scenario has many turns. Therefore the reason to limit the number of turns per Daimyo to 5 (as done for the relatively short RoR scenario) is not appropriate.

Amend the number of turns per Daimyo from 5 to 10.

	24-05-2005 21:10									#3
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only hassle I have with that is the time that each Daimyo would need to do 10 turns...

and then it takes longer to work through the list

and thus can take the edge off Clan enthusiasim

	24-05-2005 23:21									#4
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5 is a good amount, espeically when this is the busy time of the season at work

	24-05-2005 23:50									#5
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I think were going to have too many interested people for 10 turns at a time for the entire game.

Remember that Relms of Civilization conquests games tended to have only 4 or 5 team members.

Early on a human making 10 turns isn't a problem for time commitments, but evenually they'd be a point that we'd need to drop down to 5. Shoot, our last emperors reported how time consuming 5 turns were.

	24-05-2005 23:53									#6
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Roadcage & Paddy, how about a compromise, 10 turns each during the pre-daimyo era [1st], and then 5 turns during the early [2nd], late [3rd], and post [4th which is empty]

What era it is measured by our tech progress.

	25-05-2005 04:19									#7
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I support joncnunn's suggestion

	25-05-2005 05:12									#8
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quote: Originally posted by roadcage I support joncnunn's suggestion

2nd


I will update the original post in a few hours

	25-05-2005 11:55									#9
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accept as joncnunn has suggested

	26-05-2005 01:57									#10
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I accept daimyo Joncnunn's suggestions and will vote when the poll is ammended.

Kan Pai!

	26-05-2005 02:46									#11
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amended

	26-05-2005 06:42									#12
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voted

	27-05-2005 03:55									#13
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I'd probably add a position like the Pater Patriae of the previous game - the Emperor, maybe?

	27-05-2005 13:02									#14
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Emperor sounds perfect

	27-05-2005 13:33									#15
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Emperor certainly is getting the votes

	29-05-2005 00:47									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Octavian X I'd probably add a position like the Pater Patriae of the previous game - the Emperor, maybe?

how would you like this written up Oct?

personally I would see the role as a support role of the Daimyo, more an elder Samurai - holding an administration position in the clan

do we have any that would like to go for this?

and yes I would like to have a shot at the position, yet so to am more than willing to take on all contenders and soto fully support any that do take on this role that be truth.

	29-05-2005 19:15									#17
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The Emperor in Japan during this period was more ceremonial than anything, which is why I suggested that name. The Pater Patriae didn't necessairily hold any sort of political power, and neither did the Japanese Emperor.

quote: Although the role of the Emperor has alternated between that of a supreme-rank cleric with largely symbolic powers and that of an actual imperial ruler from the dawn of history until the mid-twentieth century, the main function of the Emperor was merely to authorize and to legitimate those in power for most of the last millennium. Under Japan's present constitution, the emperor is a largely ceremonial figurehead constitutional monarch. (Source Article

	30-05-2005 11:03									#18
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tx Octavian, interesting points. hehe

only hassle I have in the admin being the Emperor is then that person has a hard time interacting with the general play, ie the Emperor is mainly living in isolation etc, so having him wandering the villages and high halls of this one clan is I believe highly out of character

where as each clan would have various families and retainers, along with older Samurai holding various offices, which would include the general administration and "keeping the flow" for the Clan and the Daiymo.

	01-06-2005 13:18									#19
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will the new position be open for an election?

	01-06-2005 17:51									#20
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as per BigFrees example in the C3CISDG, it probably will be

are you interested?

	01-06-2005 18:34									#21
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wow, real elections

	01-06-2005 18:53									#22
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd wow, real elections

seems like the only position that requires it
unless you have any suggestions?

ok, law accepted, will put up an amendment for the admin position once we get the following poll sorted...

The Game Admin - Emperor or Samurai?

	01-06-2005 20:55									#23
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I think the admin should be the figurehead Emperor.

	01-06-2005 21:19									#24
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then how does the Emperor interact in the game?

and why is the Emperor so involved in this clans life?

just curious, as I love the role play of the games, and would like to see it flow

	03-06-2005 20:28									#25
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thank you one and all on this

copied into post 2 of The House of the Samurai