30-05-2005 03:53									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Imran, why would someone lie about a basic fact that could be easily checked?

You mean like Saddam having WMDs?

	30-05-2005 03:57									#62
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Or his links to Al Qaeda?

	30-05-2005 04:07									#63
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www.alqaeda.com ?

	30-05-2005 04:09									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Yeah, but I can't see how it's in the public interest to see Lynndie England's arse in the air.

I don't either, but if it wasn't there wouldn't be as much porn in the ether.

	30-05-2005 04:33									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris You mean like Saddam having WMDs?

I won't call it easy that you had to invade Iraq to find out if he had it or not.

	30-05-2005 04:36									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison www.alqaeda.com ?

What you need, when you need it

	30-05-2005 04:42									#67
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Yes...the public absolutely needs to see these pictures/videos.

Full disclosure, always.

If we screwed up, we should stand up and admit it. Put our shame on display.

To do any less is to totally turn our back upon the ideals the republic was founded on, and would be the gravest form of hypocrisy.

Show the pics.

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EDIT: spelling...%$#%!@ spelling Nazis...

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	30-05-2005 04:44									#68
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hey Vel -- thumbs up, dude

	30-05-2005 04:45									#69
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Thanks Mr. Fun.

We paint ourselves as the good guys. Let's act like it.

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	30-05-2005 04:45									#70
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"Hypocrisy"

	30-05-2005 04:49									#71
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Corrected, ya big speeling Natzy!

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	30-05-2005 04:51									#72
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quote: I won't call it easy that you had to invade Iraq to find out if he had it or not.

Bush could have come to the Apolyton OT where all the intelligent posters could have told him why it was almost impossible for Iraq to have WMD and why he shouldn't care anyway.

But Ned never listens....

	30-05-2005 05:06									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: I won't call it easy that you had to invade Iraq to find out if he had it or not. Bush could have come to the Apolyton OT where all the intelligent posters could have told him why it was almost impossible for Iraq to have WMD and why he shouldn't care anyway. But Ned never listens....

Nah, they was just as reliable as those that was certain that he was close to building nuclear weapons.

And you are also wrong about Ned, he listens seriously to what his mushrooms with sideeffects tell

	30-05-2005 05:19									#74
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It's not that Ned doesn't listen, it's just that what he hears doesn't originate in this universe.

	30-05-2005 05:31									#75
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Back on topic...

Poor Lynndie has been deprived of a pron career by the jail thing.

	30-05-2005 07:07									#76
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What is needed is more photos of happy smiling Iraqis enjoying their new freedom and showing their gratitude to coalition forces......

	30-05-2005 08:32									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Let the People Know the Facts and the Country Will Be Saved. - Abraham Lincoln

Text accounts of this are quite sufficient, in my view.

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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse What is needed is more photos of happy smiling Iraqis enjoying their new freedom and showing their gratitude to coalition forces......

I'm afraid we would have to pay them too much this month. Maybe you would accept photos from January?

	30-05-2005 08:37									#79
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Ahhh, but as the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words."

Besides, we love to show our successes off (how many MILES of footage have there been of our various successes in GW1 and 2)?

We screwed up. Let's bear up and admit to it. Show the world our mistake, FIX it so it doesn't happen again, make reparations and issue a public apology, keep EVERYONE apprised of our actions against the individuals who committed the crimes so that all will know that we won't stand idly by and let things of this sort happen.

Anything less and we don't deserve to call ourselves "the good guys."

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	30-05-2005 08:45									#80
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell It's what your tax dollars are paying for don't you think you want to know?

I want to know, but I don't want to see the pictures. Same goes for the Highway of Death, for example.

	30-05-2005 08:48									#81
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The Highway of Death was a stupid name - most Iraqis had learned to get out of their tanks when the planes arrived by then.

	30-05-2005 08:50									#82
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release the pics

	30-05-2005 08:58									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Theben I'm going to infer that your gripe is with the media b/c you & I know any new video/photos will be all over the news. That's how the media markets work these days, Dan, trying to make the most $$ from any story they think the public will listen to. Considering how capitalistic the strategy is, I would think you were all for it.

Very perceptive. I do have a beef with the media on this issue. I don't think ordinary people want to look at these kind of pictures any more than they want to look at pictures of a mass murderer in action. But they believe they have a duty to plaster ackowledged misdeeds in the "heat" of the action wall-to-wall.

What comes next? Is Time going to have a download repository of all AC-130 gunner videos, because we need to know what our tax money is going toward? Hey, make sure we have audio!

	30-05-2005 10:34									#84
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quote: I want to know, but I don't want to see the pictures. Same goes for the Highway of Death, for example.

Dan, I don't know about you, but for myself, seeing is believing. If you don't want to see these photos, tear the page out of the newspaper.

Besides, in this case I think pictures would be meant to be the foundation for a written account in this case, more than they would be meant to supplement it.

	30-05-2005 16:34									#85
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I think they should be released if the victims authorize the publication of any that might be considered humiliating and where the victims can be identified. We owe them that much.

	30-05-2005 17:04									#86
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I want to know, but I don't want to see the pictures. Same goes for the Highway of Death, for example.

You support the war. People like you most of all need to see the obscenity you are supporting.

	30-05-2005 17:25									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon He could sell that nick.

Spoken like a true Commie!

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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You support the war. People like you most of all need to see the obscenity you are supporting.

I don't need people like you who think they know what's best for me to decide what pictures I see. It's the same condescension that the media indulges in.

	30-05-2005 21:39									#89
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Very perceptive. I do have a beef with the media on this issue. I don't think ordinary people want to look at these kind of pictures any more than they want to look at pictures of a mass murderer in action. But they believe they have a duty to plaster ackowledged misdeeds in the "heat" of the action wall-to-wall. What comes next? Is Time going to have a download repository of all AC-130 gunner videos, because we need to know what our tax money is going toward? Hey, make sure we have audio!

You completely missed the point of my posts. Why do you think we still have photos of lynched blacks? Photos of mass graves in Nazi concentration camps?

Photos are often the best way to show to the world the inhumanity of human rights violations.

	30-05-2005 21:41									#90
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quote: You completely missed the point of my posts.

You're Theban's DL?