24-06-2005 08:37									#91
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The eugene minotaur & Pan

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	11-07-2005 08:28									#92
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Sorry to take so long responding, everyone, but I was out camping for over a week.

Back to work, then!

I've got some new ideas on possible units, but I'm getting worried I'm going to overflow the units bitmap, even in the Test of Time.

Among these considerations were Atlantean units, and just what barbarians will get.

There's one idea I had for an Atlantean infantry - he'd resemble a hoplite, but have a greenish tinge to his armor and carry a trident instead of a sarissa. Anyone think that's a good - or bad - idea?

BTW, great monsters there, Varwnos.

UDB

	20-07-2005 15:58									#93
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I've really got to devote more time to this thread. Internet server's been out the last few days, and I've only got 10 hours a month on dial-up right now.

Anyway, I'm determined to get this scenario done!

I need some new ideas for what to fill the rules and events files with, especially regarding divine intervention, monsters, and myth techs and improvements.

Oh, and varwnos, please don't stop sending me those cool monsters; I haven't abandoned the thread.

UDB

	03-08-2005 04:24									#94
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Okay, I think I know why I'm being ignored. All talk and no progress, right

Well, here's something I've been working on these past few days. A half-completed units graphic file.

The first unit is a generic settler. Simple.

The next seven are the base defense units for each of the seven civilizations (the Atlantean slot is blank because I currently have no good graphics for it?).

I then left the Fanatic and Guerilla slots blank because units put there have special properties - haven't decided what to do with those yet.

Then, there's unique human units for each civilization, with five empty slots for Atlanteans, two for Norse cavalry, and three - maybe upped to four - for Celts, pending graphics.

After that is a trireme - used by Greeks, Romans, and Atlanteans - and two blanks slots needing graphics for a dragon ship - used by Norse and Celts - and a kebenit - used by Egyptians and Babylonians.

Right in the freight slot is the generic caravan.

Then, an empty chunk for mythological units (I plan to use Varnwos' units, and hopefully more, once I get a scheme for them).

At the end are barbarian units - Hittites, Assyrians, Canaanites, and Scythians. Once I get graphics, I'd like to add Amazons and Ethiopians and maybe - I'm worried of cutting too much into myth units - Iberians.

So here it is. If ayone has suggestions, criticisms, or - greatly appreciated - graphics, please drop a post.

UDB

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	03-08-2005 06:16									#95
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Take care with the Musketeer and Knights slots as well...

	03-08-2005 07:45									#96
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you should check the link given in the "best terrain" thread. The guy who made that link is imo the best unit creator for tot units.

	12-08-2005 11:08									#97
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Sorry about the delay.

I've commissioned some new graphcs on another thread. Hope that comes through.

What do I have to watch about the Knight and Musketeer slots, N35tOr?

And, yes vawrnos, that terrain is amazing! I may well use it. But, in the meantime, do you have any more monsters you could spare?

UDB

	12-08-2005 19:08									#98
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The deal with those slots is detailed here: http://sleague.apolyton.net/Guides/sldt_useunits.shtml

Basically, take care (or take advantage of) those slots.

	14-08-2005 22:03									#99
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I dont have anything else; there are some monsters in that site with the terrain. If you have anything specific in mind though i may try to make it

	16-08-2005 15:42									#100
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Well, since you're offering, varwnos, I do need a few more.

I'll present you with the Greek ones I need; if you're up to it, let me know if you can tackle my Egyptian, Babylonian, Celtic, and/or Norse monsters.

Greek ones are a gorgon (e.g., Medusa), a harpie, and a centaur archer. And, if you have time (though this one's optional, I should think), maybe a chimera and/or manticore.

These are the ones. I'd be thankful for any of them.

UDB

	16-08-2005 19:53									#101
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there is already a centraurcher by me; its in the science fiction unit thread

i will see if i can/will make any of the rest

	20-08-2005 23:35									#102
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I found the centaur archer, varwnos. And any other monsters would be wonderful!

Now I've got some Atlanteans and siege engines, courtesy of Sarsstock.

I'll update my units graphics file and most the results in a bit.

UDB

	21-08-2005 17:19									#103
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i also made a Griffon, and the Medusa you asked for

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	22-08-2005 01:16									#104
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Spectacular, varnwos! Greatly appreciated!

I'll post an updated units graphics file in just a bit.

UDB

	22-08-2005 03:34									#105
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The cyclops unit above just gave me an idea for a giant unit. It would have to be a move 0 unit, perhaps hidden somewhere on the map, guarding a treasure or something. Unused mountain terrain (?) could be used together to make the top half of a giant unit, and the unit graphic could be the bottom half. Of course you could only attack the bottom half. Anyway, if this is possible, it would look great in this kind of scenario...

	22-08-2005 15:40									#106
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Where is the updated unit graphics file???



good idea biru-biru, but i dont have time to make it now :/

	25-08-2005 04:07									#107
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my main employment is my writing. I am 26 years old and have been writing literature since i was at least 17,5.
This is something i tried to draw out of a story i am currently working on, titled "the strange night".
I had a serious feeling of deja-vu while turning the thing into a civ2 tot unit

edit: i meant to post this in the phantasy graphics thread

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	25-08-2005 05:26									#108
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Here's the updated units graphics file.

Added:
-Atlantean human units (by Sarsstock)
-Priest (diplomatic unit)
-Siege weapons (also by Sarsstock, but made generic instead of strictly Atlantean)
-Heroes (except Norse and Celtic, still looking for graphics for those)
-Some myth units by varwnos (looking for more, notably other mythology's worth)
-Amazon (varwnos' Zena) added to barbarian units

Here it is as it stands:

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	25-08-2005 18:06									#109
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Nice units so far.

	25-08-2005 23:23									#110
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That doesn't look like a gryphon varwnos.

www.lionking.org/~cabbit/gryphon.jpg

That's a gryphon.
I'd like a separate civ for the Gods, so that you could use them like the Godzilla creature in the old Sim City games - to wreak havoc over a certain area, and then disappear. Maybe make them very strong but give them the helicopter flag so that they weaken over time.
The ancient Greek gods were highly capricious, and thought nothing of interfering in human affairs.

Sorry, the image tag didn't work properly.

	26-08-2005 00:01									#111
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hmm, you are right. Perhaps the "griffon" unit shouldnt be used.
Or it could be a generic part bird, part human unit of some sort.

	30-08-2005 12:07									#112
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Again, sorry about the delay.

@Duke o' York: I plan to represent the gods through events strictly, both random and triggered. This way, they can cause more mischief than as a civilization, actually.

@varnwos: I do like your myth units, and Zena makes a great amazon! Any chance of a manticore and/or chimera?

UDB

	30-08-2005 16:27									#113
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quote: Originally posted by varwnos hmm, you are right. Perhaps the "griffon" unit shouldnt be used. Or it could be a generic part bird, part human unit of some sort.

Harpies were half woman, half eagle, and bloody annoying!

	08-09-2005 04:12									#114
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Sorry for not posting. I've been out of town.

Anyways, I've made a list of the remaining units I need. It runs essentially as follows:

-Two Norse cavalry
-Three Celtic human units of almost any military description
-A longboat and kebenit
-A Norse and Celtic hero
-A manticore and chimera
-A petsuchos (jeweled crocodile), wadjet (winged cobra), and mummy
-A lammasu (winged, human-headed lion) and annunaki (insectoid artificer)
-A dwarf, alfar, giant, troll, and valkyrie
-A redcap, sluagh, and boggart
-An Ethiopian and Iberian barbarian

Now I don't think they're all going to fit in one graphics file, even for the Test of Time. This means I'll have to prioritize.

If anyone can provide any of the above units, please post. I'd be indebted, and all contributions are tax deductible.

UDB

	19-09-2005 03:45									#115
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Again, sorry for the delay. I've been very busy lately.

I've had some new ideas for this scenario, so I hope interest hasn't waned entirely.

First, I'd considered a Zeus/Jovian Thunderbolt missile type unit, but haven't decided exactly how to implement who gets it and how.

As well, I've had a few ideas on Wonders, notably the following:
- Parthenon (perhaps as the Great Wall)
-the Colosseum (the actual improvement will be something else) (as Shakespear's Theatre)
-Stonehenge (as Isaac Newton's College or Copernicus' Observatory)
-the Temple of Vespasian (as Michaelangelo's Chapel)
-Vallhalla (as Sun Tzu's War Academy)
-the Danesgild (as Adam Smith's Trading Company)
-the Temple of Isis (as the other of Isaac Newton or Copernicus)
-as well as some of the earlier ones as is (the Pyramids, the Hanging Gardens, the Lighthouse, the Great Library, and the Colossus)
-and a few for the Atlanteans, essentially created from wholecloth.

I have some other ideas I'm working on, but know I've not given up.

Any further contributions would be warmly welcomed.

UDB