14-06-2005 02:15									#61
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count 4: not guilty

count 5: not guilty

count 6: not guilt

He's not guilty of child molestation

	14-06-2005 02:15									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie He will be "not guilty". He's white, after all

I think he constitutes a race of his own nowadays.

	14-06-2005 02:16									#63
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Count 7, intoxication, not guilty

	14-06-2005 02:17									#64
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not guilty on count 7:
count 8: not guilty
count 9: not guilty
count 10: not guilty

he's free and clear.

	14-06-2005 02:18									#65
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Count 8, not guilty of providing drinks to underage person.

Count 9, not guilty.

	14-06-2005 02:18									#66
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Clear on all counts...

	14-06-2005 02:22									#68
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what is this BS

	14-06-2005 02:23									#69
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No need for this poll. Michael Jackson won the only poll that matters.

	14-06-2005 02:23									#70
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Now someone should sue the courts for a frivolous prosecution.

	14-06-2005 02:23									#71
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I've been telling you all along that he was innocent.

How can anyone not see what type of people the accusers were? I said the same thing about the Kobe Bryant case.

Yeah I know, I shouldn't stereotype accusers. But some accusers just don't know how to lie.

	14-06-2005 02:24									#72
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay what is this BS

	14-06-2005 02:28									#73
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Verdict came in ten minutes ago -- Michael Jackson is found not guilty on all ten counts.

	14-06-2005 02:29									#74
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Can we persecute him for being a freak of nature now?

	14-06-2005 02:30									#75
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I guess you could say that michael jackson really is a smooth criminal!

	14-06-2005 02:31									#76
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I recall i said he was not guilty as well in the trial thread. I still believe the guy is not gulity and the sneddon guy was on a vendatta to **** with this guy

	14-06-2005 02:31									#77
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I can't wait for NAMBLA to celebrate this absurdity.

	14-06-2005 02:33									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Now someone should sue the courts for a frivolous prosecution.

All that's needed is to prove the prosecution acted with reckless disregard and actual malice towards Jackson, or that they knowingly suppressed evidence that would exonerate Jackson and went to trial anyway.

A bungled case by the prosecution doesn't even come close.

	14-06-2005 02:37									#79
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Yes, with those accusors there was plenty of room for reasonable doubt.
We'll see how they do in the civil suit.

	14-06-2005 02:39									#80
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A question to those who understand the American legal system.

Jackson was found innocent, so the charges were made up. Therefore, the accusers gave false testimony. AFAIK, giving false testimony in court is a crime. Is there now going to be a case automatically against Jackson's accusers?

	14-06-2005 02:41									#81
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No, they won't be charged. There testimony could have been true. Just the jury decided there was doubt.

	14-06-2005 02:41									#82
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yes, with those accusors there was plenty of room for reasonable doubt. We'll see how they do in the civil suit.

Thats excatly what I said in the trial thread only reason the criminal trial was going on was to pave way for the civil suit figured this mother learned enough from the oj fiasaco

	14-06-2005 02:42									#83
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Yeah, but the civil suit would have been much easier if he had been convicted.

	14-06-2005 02:43									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Solver A question to those who understand the American legal system. Jackson was found innocent, so the charges were made up. Therefore, the accusers gave false testimony. AFAIK, giving false testimony in court is a crime. Is there now going to be a case automatically against Jackson's accusers?

No.

"Not guilty" does not mean "innocent" - it means that the prosecution didn't meet the standard of proof to convict.

There's no connection to giving false testimony - the jury not believing the testimony as credible doesn't mean it's false, it just means the jury didn't believe it.

	14-06-2005 02:44									#85
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yeah, but the civil suit would have been much easier if he had been convicted.

Maybe the civil suit will convince BofA or some third party creditor to force an involuntary bankruptcy and put the little freak on the street.

	14-06-2005 02:47									#86
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat All that's needed is to prove the prosecution acted with reckless disregard and actual malice towards Jackson, or that they knowingly suppressed evidence that would exonerate Jackson and went to trial anyway. A bungled case by the prosecution doesn't even come close.

What about "the prosecution acted to promote themselves and make themselves celebrities". That's what I had in mind.

The whole thing stank from the beginning. I am not a Michael Jackson fan either.

	14-06-2005 02:51									#87
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well simply stated it will now be easier to say that it is more likely then not that this happened for the civil suit. Which is why i believe the mother went as far AS she could in the crimminal trial. I dont think he did any of the things they accused him of but since he is a freak people want to lend in to the fact he did

	14-06-2005 02:58									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon What about "the prosecution acted to promote themselves and make themselves celebrities". That's what I had in mind. The whole thing stank from the beginning. I am not a Michael Jackson fan either.

Well, if you can prove they knew from the outset that they he was not guilty and they chose to proceed regardless, have at it.

	14-06-2005 03:01									#89
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Now I can vote in the poll!

	14-06-2005 03:06									#90
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As I remember, juries consist of of the accused's "peers"...

Who exactly are Jackson's peers?

I haven't held the US justice system in particularly high regard after I heard that one DA left a murder trial to her subordinates, to prosecute in a shoplifting trial... for Winona Ryder. ( )

15 minutes, that's all I want.