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Michael Jackson: guilty?
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Yes 25 36.76%
No 22 32.35%
No idea/don't care/banana 21 30.88%
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chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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Jackson was found innocent, so the charges were made up.


That's not what it means. It means the state was unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty, that's all. Actual guilt and legal guilt are two different things.

I, for one, believe he is a child molester, precisely for the reasons so many people say he isn't, that he's mentally a child. Guess what, almost all child molesters are the same way.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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My lord... all these wierd thoughts on how the law works... and some from people in common law countries (MtG and che get props )!

It's absolutely amazing, after the OJ trial, that people think if they didn't get a guilty verdict, the prosecution made up the case...

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Can Michael Jackson now please retire into obscurity? I'd really like to not hear about him anymore.

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What a fine use of taxpayer dollars. Any decent prosecutor would never have filed the charges in the first place.

oedo is offline oedo
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I voted guilty.

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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I've been telling you all along that he was innocent.


Does this sound like someone who believed he was innocent?

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exactly why does Michael jackson have a bad back anyways?

he's never did an ounce of manual labour all his life.

The only thing I can think of, is he's been doing weird sexual positions with the boys.


You are so full of **** Diss.

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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Damn - your average american crowd really is wierd...

I watched part of the press conference with the juries and they sure are colorful characters.

I especially liked it when fat dweeb with big ears went: "I feel like I made 19 new friends in 6 months! DUH!" (proceedes to drool on himself).

Mrs. Tuberski is offline Mrs. Tuberski
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I find it odd that nobody really here has given the guy the benefit of the doubt... Is not possible that guy really is innocent and did not abuse anyone??? or Do we just go ahead and try them in the media like everyone else? As far as i am concerned the procesution didnt prove that Mj did a dam thing

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I find it odd that nobody really here has given the guy the benefit of the doubt... Is not possible that guy really is innocent and did not abuse anyone??? or Do we just go ahead and try them in the media like everyone else? As far as i am concerned the procesution didnt prove that Mj did a dam thing


You answered your own question. It's unfortunete, but if the media says or implies somone is guilty, people think he's guilty and if he wins, then the justice system sucks or something.

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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When the prosecution gets caught lying and cheating, and repeatedly so in this case, it will lose. It can not overcome reasonable doubt carrying such baggage.
I ran out of fingers counting the number times the stupid prosecution had in opening argument contradicted by its own witnesses. That is lazyness and imcompetance of the highest order in its investigation and preperation. With a case like that Satan would be aquitted, even if he was a pauper.

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What is interesting is how folks all over the country presume to know whether he is guilty or innocent based on a couple of news reports, personal conversations, and news papers we've seen, and based on this mountain of credible evidense presume to tell the 12 people who spent weeks listening to every shred of evidense on the case that they are wrong.

Ummm

Do I know he is guilty or innocent? No I don't. Do I know half as much as any of the jurors who made this decision? Not even close. Therefore I trust their decision. MJ is innocent.

Pyrodrew is offline Pyrodrew
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Damn - your average american crowd really is wierd...

I watched part of the press conference with the juries and they sure are colorful characters.


I could see someone suggesting that was the average American crowd if no one could ever get out of jury duty so easily.

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Thats the point here nobody even the jurors know if hes innocent or not. The whole point is there was not enough evidence anywhere to prove mj did a thing. The da screwed up they knew that and went forward with a trial that had not a whole lot of basis. Do most folks think that his cleberity status got him off im sure. There is one thing that convinced me that he didnt do what they accused him of and that was a biography if this kid that was accusing him wiht the guy he didnt act very afraid in that video

 
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