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Btw, you'll have access to SNES, NES, N64 and Gamecube games, free of charge. Some people seem to think this is cool. I don't care

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I know

edit: Wait...are you sure they're free of charge?

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I know

edit: Wait...are you sure they're free of charge?


That's what I read recently, on Gamespot irc...

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Suffering from ads?

I don't remember reading free of charge, just that the entire library would be available for download.

I did read that Nintendo Online would be free, though.

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I know

edit: Wait...are you sure they're free of charge?




that would be amazing

Considering my game taste and attention span, I would take that in a heartbeat over shiny graphics.

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I get a new SNES ROM every couple of days

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You do know that virtually nothing is stored uncompressed on the discs, right? How do they get decompressed? Do decompression algorithms take up additional memory? Do they take up CPU/GPU cycles?

When the levels are being loaded, they're also be initialized. When you have only 32MB/64MB of RAM, you can't be lazy and just store and load. If that was the case you could fill up the Xbox's memory @ 5MB/s = 13s max. This is assuming they're contiguous in memory and there's no seek delays... (PS2 is 2.5MB/s, but 32MB...so also 13s)


Even if there is decompression and initialization, a menu requires litte CPU/GPU and memory bandwidth, so you could do both at the same time.

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  Old Post 05-06-2005 07:57
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Are you sure they are putting up Gamecube games for download also? I only read that it only went up to N64.

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No, I'm not sure. I may be wrong. Google it, you're bound to find the info.

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Here's what I read. No, you can't download Gamecube games. Irc, you will be able to put Gamecube disks in the Revolution. I'm not a retro gamer myself. Unlike tabletop games like Monopoly, for example, I can't help but feel that videogames, like any other technological product, become obsolete with time.

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000843045537/

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Wow. Good move. When we spoke with Nintendo about the price of their classic “emulated” games on the Revolution, they were coy and left the pricing up to our imaginations. I assumed they’d follow the GBA model — 10-12 bucks for a classic would be fair. But George Harrison of Nintendo just sprung a surprise. Classic Nintendo titles will be free. Buy the console, take it home, plug it in and start playing your old faves. They’ll have to be careful not to offer too much out of the gate. After all, you want people to spend money on the software. But as far as exciting services to offer with their new hardware, it’s hard to come up with a better idea.

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spiffor:

This is how it's supposed to will work:

The Revolution will have DVD sized discs for its own games
The Revolution will be able to load and play Gamecube games from Gamecube discs (so, presumably, only if you own the gamecube game)
The Revolution will be able to download N64, SNES, and NES games from a Nintendo server, free of charge.

Just the thought of that is so awesome.

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The Revolution will not support HD.

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The Revolution will not be televised.

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If I hear that joke one more time, I'm going to shoot the next person who makes it.

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And I'm going to very much doubt Nintendo sticks to its plan of free downloads for older games.

Bookmark this thread and bump it in 2 years when Nintendo launches Revolution.

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If I hear that joke one more time, I'm going to shoot the next person who makes it.


Try and I'll kick your skinny gay ass, boy!!

I saw the PS3 and XBox 360 on TV today. I didn't see much of the PS3 stuff, but what I saw made me agree with the presenters: the PS3 looks like it will win this round.

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The Revolution will not support HD.


I'm not rushing out to buy a HD television anyways. Unlike some technomaniacs I can keep the same TV for a few years.

Besides, who would want to play Goldeneye 007, Duck Hunt, and Yoshi's Island in HD?

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That makes no sense.

In what context?

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I'm not rushing out to buy a HD television anyways. Unlike some technomaniacs I can keep the same TV for a few years.

Besides, who would want to play Goldeneye 007, Duck Hunt, and Yoshi's Island in HD?

I can already play those for free on my computer...so can anyone.

What I want is to play new games, not ones I beat 15 years ago.

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Some of us would like to play them free legally, though.

In any case, the PS3 doesn't interest me in the slightest and at this point I'd take the Revolution and 360 over it - and our current console is a PS2. Of course, the reason we got it is that it was the only system with DDR games on it at the time.

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Hardware wise, it'll be more or less a draw.

Software wise, Sony doesn't have much exclusives people are clamouring over. All the hype from PS3 was the Killzone prerendered footage. Those of us who remember...Killzone was hyped to hell this year as Sony's "Halo killer".

It sucked: http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpag....asp?q=killzone

Timeline wise, MS has about a year jump on the PS3.

Service wise, Xbox Live owns anything Sony has by orders of magnitude.

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WOW... the Revolution is going to have free NES and SNES games?! That almost makes it a must have 2nd console if the price is right!

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I don't think Nintendo would sell the Revolution at a loss. Therefore, even if many people only bought it for older games without ever buying a single Revolution game, it would be OK.

However--isn't there a licensing issue with the many third party games? If it was only Nintendo-made games, it would still be nice, but no longer would it rock.

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I can already play those for free on my computer...so can anyone.

You have been reported.

Expect the super team (Shigeru Miyamoto and Reggie Fils-Aime) to kick your ass at an undisclosed time between now and tomorrow morning.

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I'm sure Nintendo could work something out with most third-party games.

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I thought I read that first-party games would be free and third-party games would be priced however the owners want, but nothing has been finalized yet.

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Hardware wise, it'll be more or less a draw.

Software wise, Sony doesn't have much exclusives people are clamouring over. All the hype from PS3 was the Killzone prerendered footage. Those of us who remember...Killzone was hyped to hell this year as Sony's "Halo killer".

It sucked: http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpag....asp?q=killzone

Timeline wise, MS has about a year jump on the PS3.

Service wise, Xbox Live owns anything Sony has by orders of magnitude.


Sony is planing to build a service like xbox live called underground. They hired the person that designed Live to build it. How do you call Devil May Cry and Soul Calibar not good exclusives. PS3 doesnt need a Halo killer because Halo sucks. A mediocre shooter with decent mp support can kill Halo.

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Doesn't matter if you think Halo sucks - most people think it rocks. Go suck on it.

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Hardware wise, it'll be more or less a draw.

Software wise, Sony doesn't have much exclusives people are clamouring over. All the hype from PS3 was the Killzone prerendered footage. Those of us who remember...Killzone was hyped to hell this year as Sony's "Halo killer".



Now you're not being fair. Don't worry, they'll have the exclusives. They'll probably have Final Fantasy 12, they'll have the next Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid (Splinter Cell is superior, but a lot of people love the Metal Gear series) and possibly the next Grand Theft Auto. Imo, Microsoft has a lot of work to do on exclusives. They can't rely on Halo alone in order to beat Sony. To be fair, they did a decent job this time around, but they need something really big, like Grand Theft Auto and Splinter Cell exclusives (but that would be very expensive.)

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Doesn't matter if you think Halo sucks - most people think it rocks. Go suck on it.


Exactly. The fact of the matter is, it is the most popular shooter out right now.

 
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