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DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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Have been playing this too much this week, and it's pretty impressive. Not sure about longevity (haven't tried much PvP yet) but it's great fun as a co-op MP RPG, and even if I don't play it at all after the PvE campaign it would still be worth the £18 it cost.

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Love the game.

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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The thread might last longer than the other GW threads if you explain to all the interested posters just what it is that makes the game worthy of their time, effort, and, for the tight ones, money.

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I hit the Level Cap last Weekend (Level 20) and thought the Rest of the Game would be a Walkover. Oh how utterly wrong I was.
With Monsters generally above your Level, Success depends on Teamwork and the Skills/Spells you have brought with you/unlocked.
Im still uncertain on the Long Term Fun though. Starting a New Char revealed to me how boring especially the First Missions in the Newcomer Area are- I rushed through most of them .

The Updates
( http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html )
~ Although I had to jump to the English-speaking Districts to find enough Players at very Late Evening.

no monthly fee

Class Combo


SNL-like Dance ....

Overall: Pretty Easy to get into, harder to Master ( the most efficent SkillCombinations)

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Yeh - I just hit the desert with one of my chars (18 mo/el) and ... ouch. Competent groups can do okay, but if you have even one runner ...

I don't mind the first part of the game actually - it's SP, basically, but it's very quick, I got to level 7 and seared basically in eight hours or so with my second char ...

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I'm tempted to buy this, but it seems a bit simplistic to me. Tell me it ain't so.

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Simplistic? (ie, simple?) I don't think so ...

You have a character, with two classes, a primary and a secondary. You have 4 skill types from your primary and 3-4 from your secondary, which correspond to 7-8 total 'attributes', of which you have, by levelmax (20), 150 total points to distribute between (1 point costs 1, 2 points cost 2, ... , 7 points cost 7, 8 points cost 9, 9 poinst cost 11, ...) Basically you can be "good" (8-10) in 2 skills, or "okay" (6-8) in three to four.

Then, you have in each skill category, about 20 skills to choose from, meaning you have a total of around 150 skills to choose from (if you get them all, which is hard). You can only choose 8 to be useable at any one time ... meaning you have to choose very carefully.

There are about 5 or 6 different ways of playing any given class combination; for example I have a monk/elementalist, which can either be played as:
* Healer/nuker (my char): Fire, Healing high, some divine favor; basically heals people and has 2 fire damage spells equipped, one AOE and one direct damage, for when healing isn't necessary. Flexible in that when you are in a party with plenty of monks, you can add another fire spell or two and do more damage.
* Healer/DOTer: Water or earth, healing high, some divine favor. Same thing, but with DOT or 'weaken' spells (earth, water); they take less energy to cast, as you only cast them once, and you help your other pals out, while mostly healing.
* Healer/Protector: Healing and Protection prayers high; some divine favor; some (elemental). Basically a straight monk, with shielding spells and healing spells, but using ELE secondary to get better off-hand items (ie, like a shield, but instead of +armor it's +energy).
* Protector/Nuker: Protection prayers high, fire high; healing middling. Has probably 2 nukes, 2 heals, 3 protects, 1 res. Mostly there to cast protects, then nuke, with some healing (only works as a secondary healing monk).
* Smiting Monk: Smiting prayers high, healing, earth/water, and divine favor middling. Smiting prayers are the 'damage' part of monks. Earth/water are for DOT and weaken effects to enhance smiting - you may not have very many skills from that category, but in some instances you'll need them.

Etc. There are more possibilities - these are only some, and only some of Mo/Ele. (I'm not sure i'd ever play smiting monk as a Mo/Ele ... but a Mo/Mesmer, with smiting prayers and the far superior weaken spells of a mesmer ... *drools*)

Only having 8 skills also means you have to be *smart* - compared to FFXI or Everquest, my previous games, I get a lot more frustrated with people who don't bring the right skills along and/or who don't act smartly. You really have to bring the right skillset for the job - an elementalist who brings fire spells to an area with fire-resistant monsters is a complete waste of space ... and a Ranger/Mesmer who doesn't bring Cripple and a Fear skill ... well, same thing.

Add into that, the fact that you can adjust your skillpoints up OR DOWN - ie, totally change your skill focus if you decide you don't like how your char is currently playing, or if your guild needs a Nuking Monk instead of a Protecting Monk - giving a lot more flexibility, and meaning you don't have to just delete the char and start over if you want to change focus ...

I think it's a wonderful game. PvP is good, from my beta experience, only if you're in a game with experienced players, and preferably with a guild you're experienced *with* - then it's a load of fun, but random PvP like arena combats, is not as much because you often get complete idiots.

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I'm tempted to buy this, but it seems a bit simplistic to me. Tell me it ain't so.


It aint so. I see Snoopy already has most bases covered.

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Wow. This game sounds pretty good. I may have to pick it up.

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You would be advised to sir, along with everyone else who doesn't yet have it.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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It sounds much like a "Tactical Roleplay Battle" game rather than a true RPG. Do people play "in character" or is it all about tactics and tweaking skills?

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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very few people play in character in MMOs period

I even don't always do so..
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Yeah, don't start Ludding. It's a great tactical game, and I know you like that element of NWN as well as the RP.

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I want both

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Would you like the moon on a stick too?

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Thanks

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ZOMFG! I have just been playing Guild Wars for 14 hours straight.

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Sweet I know if you like it i'd probably enjoy it as well.

Any rping?

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ZOMFG! I have just been playing Guild Wars for 14 hours straight.


True or joking? I know you are quite impulsive and quite capable of just going and getting the game and playing it for 14 hours.

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True or joking? I know you are quite impulsive and quite capable of just going and getting the game and playing it for 14 hours.


Totally true. I just went and got it and played it. Ok, I was right, in that it is slightly shallow - this is a RPG for the WC3 generation, but it is VERY slick, well presented, balanced... they out-Blizzard Blizzard ...and great fun. I'd reccommend it to anyone that had never played an RPG before. I won't complain about the concept of the game - clearly this is NOT a stats-fest, nor does it have a multitude of character creation options. Its a tactical-rpg-battle game, and it does it rather well.

A couple of gripes

- Some kind of policing of the "public band" in cities would be nice. Endless spamming of people shouting about their black dye requirements started to grate

- Control of your character's head would be nice too. I missed NWN's system where your character would turn its head to look at whatever you moused-over.

- All the numbers are "under the hood". I want to know what my chances are of doing X damage with Y weapon vs Z armour please.

-Jam

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Is it like Diablo 2, or is it like a MMORPG?

if it's like Diablo 2, I'll buy it.

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Its more like Diablo2 - the combat areas are unique to party, the towns are open server. Its not a level grind though.

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I kind of prefer that. I find, that for multiplayer, I prefer a more "action" style environment. MMORPG's just don't do it for me. I've tried 2 of them, and didn't like either. I don't like Folderol (NWN persistant world) either. I can't explain it exactly. I'm not that antisocial (or unsocial), as I did like Diablo2. And I liked playind NWN individual modules in multiplayer (with full roleplaying even).

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How does it compare to WoW? (Which is the only MMoRPG I have ever tried)

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I'd like to know peoples' characters' names - that way we could meet up online or even have an Apolyton Guild.

I've got Jamskianna Mu, a W/R

Stick me under "friends" and give me a shout if you see me online.

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14 hours straight isn't that much

talk to me when you do 36 hours straight..

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Alf the Axe, W/Mo.

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Added and added. Gonna play after the folk are asleep

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Played for a while tonight. Now almost level 17.

 
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