05-06-2005 11:01									#1
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I just got back from a thoroughly wonderful vacation in Costa Rica and I loved every minute of it though there is one thing I'd like to discuss. It seems that Costa Rica, like many developing countries, has its urban areas over run by prostitutes seeking cash from foreign tourists. Sadly, many of these tourists seem to be visiting Costa Rica not for the countries numerous national parks and/or cultural treasures but instead were taking part in organized sex tours which sometimes visibly included child sex. I personally am not opposed to Prostitution though it isn't for me but I do oppose child prostitution as it is an unfair exploitation of some of the most vulnerable people in society.

It was actually kind of surreal to be propositioned by so many good looking women (prostitutes though they be) in such a consistent basis. In fact it seemed like every foreign tourist was constantly catcalled and propositioned by prostitutes unless they were walking with another girl. Since I don't currently have a girlfriend the only way I could avoid these constant advances was to have my friend Irene (a female friend from college who came with me to Costa Rica) go with me every where.

The really strange thing is that many/most of these girls didn't seem like drug addicts or other types you'd expect to be in such a business. Instead many of them looked like truly gorgious college girls who were just doing it so they could afford to buy the latest fashions and expensive foreign made jewelry. That's not the choice I'd make but it seems one which many of Costa Rica's youngest and hottest women are making. I've noticed similar things occurring in Thailand and Korea when I visited those countries as well.

So my question is do you consider this to be a problem? Do you think first world tourism promotes this sort of stuff and what can be done to stop it?

	05-06-2005 11:05									#2
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No, I think there is no problem whatsoever with child prostitution. These kids are saving money for college, after all. It will get them out of poverty.

	05-06-2005 11:08									#3
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I already said I oppose child prostitution; we're talking about prostitution where both parties are over 18. Now the question is what can be done about it and is it an unavoidable effect of 1st world tourism to poorer countries?

	05-06-2005 11:10									#4
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I have no problem with prostitution as a profession for adults.

	05-06-2005 11:10									#5
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Oh, regular prositution?

well, I guess I have no problem with it, as long as it is organized by the workers, if you know what I mean. ( no pimps)

	05-06-2005 11:15									#6
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I see nothing philosophically wrong with adult, consenting prostitution, however one has to see a practical problem with prostitution in countries like Costa Rica. There is a high likelihood that these women would contract STDs at higher rates, which not only endangers their customers but puts a decided strain on healthcare and quality of life in a nation where those are already at a minimum.

	05-06-2005 11:16									#7
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I respect prostitutes for providing an essential service to millions of people

And "we" put 'em in cages as a reward?

I bet we'd have more nutcases out there killing people if not for prostitutes.

	05-06-2005 11:16									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The really strange thing is that many/most of these girls didn't seem like drug addicts or other types you'd expect to be in such a business. Instead many of them looked like truly gorgious college girls who were just doing it so they could afford to buy the latest fashions and expensive foreign made jewelry. That's not the choice I'd make but it seems one which many of Costa Rica's youngest and hottest women are making. I've noticed similar things occurring in Thailand and Korea when I visited those countries as well.

I lived 6 years in Costa Rica and never noticed this. Then again I left when I was still naively 16

Suddenly I feel an uncontrollable urge to go back

	05-06-2005 11:28									#9
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Being in Nevada, the brothels run here make this a very safe profession for those that choose to go through those channels. It isn't going to go away and that individuals who voluntarily (as in of their own free will, not under duress) engage in it have every right to do so. All we, the people who choose not to do this, can do about it is do everything we can to ensure those who do are given every opportunity to be safe.

	05-06-2005 12:04									#10
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Its an underground industry and you just walked into one of the hotspots. World tourism doesn't promote it but some people travel just for that purpose. To be fair, the authorities are trying to crack down.

	05-06-2005 12:35									#11
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quote: Originally posted by DerSchwarzfalke I see nothing philosophically wrong with adult, consenting prostitution, however one has to see a practical problem with prostitution in countries like Costa Rica. There is a high likelihood that these women would contract STDs at higher rates, which not only endangers their customers but puts a decided strain on healthcare and quality of life in a nation where those are already at a minimum.

The Costa Rican government does issue licences to protitutes which prove they've been counciled about safe sex practices and have undergone recent STD checks. I guess that would be the way to go if the sex trade is to be premited though I can't help but feel Prostitution should be kept as small and out of the public eye as possible. In cities like San Jose, Jaco, and Quepos the hookers were every where and right out in the open. It would be better to have a "red light district" where this activity is confined that way normal families don't have to deal with it on a daily basis.

	05-06-2005 12:41									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Its an underground industry and you just walked into one of the hotspots. World tourism doesn't promote it but some people travel just for that purpose. To be fair, the authorities are trying to crack down.

I did notice that the airport had a ton of posters which said "We protect our children. The age of consent is 18." and similiar messages written in English, French, and (curiously enough) German. It deos seem the government knows there is a problem with the child sex trade in that country and that they're trying to do something about it.

	05-06-2005 12:51									#13
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Many Japanese go to Thailand, the Phillipines, and Korea for such a purpose.

	05-06-2005 12:55									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I just got back from a thoroughly wonderful vacation in Costa Rica and I loved every minute of it though there is one thing I'd like to discuss. It seems that Costa Rica, like many developing countries, has its urban areas over run by prostitutes seeking cash from foreign tourists. Sadly, many of these tourists seem to be visiting Costa Rica not for the countries numerous national parks and/or cultural treasures but instead were taking part in organized sex tours which sometimes visibly included child sex. I personally am not opposed to Prostitution though it isn't for me but I do oppose child prostitution as it is an unfair exploitation of some of the most vulnerable people in society. It was actually kind of surreal to be propositioned by so many good looking women (prostitutes though they be) in such a consistent basis. In fact it seemed like every foreign tourist was constantly catcalled and propositioned by prostitutes unless they were walking with another girl. Since I don't currently have a girlfriend the only way I could avoid these constant advances was to have my friend Irene (a female friend from college who came with me to Costa Rica) go with me every where. The really strange thing is that many/most of these girls didn't seem like drug addicts or other types you'd expect to be in such a business. Instead many of them looked like truly gorgious college girls who were just doing it so they could afford to buy the latest fashions and expensive foreign made jewelry. That's not the choice I'd make but it seems one which many of Costa Rica's youngest and hottest women are making. I've noticed similar things occurring in Thailand and Korea when I visited those countries as well. So my question is do you consider this to be a problem? Do you think first world tourism promotes this sort of stuff and what can be done to stop it?

yes it's a problem, as most of those girls are not there of their own volition. Many have run of debts, and have to become prostitutes to pay them off. And of course the underage girls. That's just wrong.

	05-06-2005 12:57									#15
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I remember seeing a TV show on the Costa Rican problem years ago. It might have been on "60 Minutes".

	05-06-2005 13:02									#16
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I don't beleive in selling yourself, in any way, to make a living

I would guess that is why I am not very good at it

Jon Miller

	05-06-2005 13:03									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs Being in Nevada, the brothels run here make this a very safe profession for those that choose to go through those channels. It isn't going to go away and that individuals who voluntarily (as in of their own free will, not under duress) engage in it have every right to do so. All we, the people who choose not to do this, can do about it is do everything we can to ensure those who do are given every opportunity to be safe.

don't be too sure, I'm fairly certain legalized prostitution will go away in Nevada within the next 10 years.

A big sign is the politicians recently refused to tax brothels recently even when the brothels offered to pay taxes. It's not often politicians will turn down money to spend.

they realize why the brothels are offering to pay taxes. Because once the goverment starts collecting taxes, they will never cut taxes. Cutting taxes isn't heard of in our state.

The biggest reason this will happen is Californians have taken over our state and goverment. None of the old timers want to repeal prostitution. Soon the Californians (yeah sure they have residence, but they are still californians) will have a majority in most of Nevada's goverments.

	05-06-2005 13:03									#18
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On the topic of 'regular' prostitution, apparently prostitution related crime (murder, theft etc) fell after it was legalised quite recently in a certain European country whose name I cannot recall.

	05-06-2005 13:08									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Costa Rican government does issue licences to protitutes which prove they've been counciled about safe sex practices and have undergone recent STD checks. I guess that would be the way to go if the sex trade is to be premited though I can't help but feel Prostitution should be kept as small and out of the public eye as possible. In cities like San Jose, Jaco, and Quepos the hookers were every where and right out in the open. It would be better to have a "red light district" where this activity is confined that way normal families don't have to deal with it on a daily basis.

not to mention street prostitution isn't safe. The odds of getting jacked (actually that's not the best word )- err I mean robbed or the prostitute being assaulted and/or killed is very high.

	05-06-2005 13:08									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I don't beleive in selling yourself, in any way, to make a living I would guess that is why I am not very good at it

	05-06-2005 13:09									#21
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I am not very good at making a living

perhaps because I don't beleive in selling myself in any fashion...

there are many ways to sell oneself besides physical prostitution

Jon Miller

	05-06-2005 13:11									#22
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Oh. I thought you might have meant something else.

	05-06-2005 13:14									#23
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	05-06-2005 13:14									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I am not very good at making a living perhaps because I don't beleive in selling myself in any fashion... there are many ways to sell oneself besides physical prostitution Jon Miller

you could always be a bum on the streets.

I am perfectly happy to sell my technical skills to my employer. I get satisfaction from a job well done. I feel useful. It's nice not to feel useless in this world.

	05-06-2005 13:56									#25
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and why pay for sex if you can just jerk off?

an orgasm is an orgasm. I don't see (or feel) much difference.

	05-06-2005 14:06									#26
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Oerdin I thought you just liked blonde haired blue eyed chicks?

	05-06-2005 14:13									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Oerdin I thought you just liked blonde haired blue eyed chicks?

he does. I think he's been Aruba as well.

Anyone find it strange that this girl disappeared the same time Oerdin was out of the country?

	05-06-2005 14:14									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Oerdin I thought you just liked blonde haired blue eyed chicks?

Like Britney?
(you'd hit it )

	05-06-2005 14:32									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Anyone find it strange that this girl disappeared the same time Oerdin was out of the country?

	05-06-2005 16:21									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident and why pay for sex if you can just jerk off? an orgasm is an orgasm. I don't see (or feel) much difference.

The majority of blokes paying prostitutes aren't in it purely for the sex.

The whole male power thing is a teriible cliche but there is some truth in it....the feeling of paying someone to do whatever you want and having them completely under your control is a million miles away from jerking off.