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I suppose there were smarter things to wear, other than a black t-shirt advertsizing the movie, Enemy of the State, with Will Smith. Maybe the blue Cubs hat would have been better than the black Mossino cap. The Birkenstock sandals probably just made the outfit. Then there's the black bicycle. Hey, I like black.

So I wasn't really suprised when the pigs pulled me over, demanded to see my ID, and know what was in my backpack (a kitty litter box, in case you're wondering) as I left the Publix. There were, like, twenty pigs in black and armor on bikes. Apparently, they were afraid that the anarchists were going to attack Publix (but not Winn-Dixie across the street).

You see, I had unwittingly stumbled into a meeting of the OAS, which is going on right down the street, and I only found out about on the way home from the airport. I guess my neighborhood's not so bad after all.

Still, I'm one out-of-shape commie, surrounded by twenty pigs who were very much in shape. So I was a good German, and showed them my ID and let them look in my pack.

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****ing cops...

That sucks Che.

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Is being a "good German" an American metaphor for being submissive to the state then?

You'd never get that kind of treatment over here, no matter your looks

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Is being a "good German" an American metaphor for being submissive to the state then?


Yes.

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They can here! OMG WE ARE ZE GERMANS ! !!!!! 11

anyway,

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Apparently some little punk rocker was in the store ahead of me and was escorted out. On the way in, I heard one of the pigs talking about how anarchists like to break windows and set fires and ****. I almost laughed, but considering how I looked, I figured it was best not to piss him off. Like I need to go to jail just because a bunch of foreign ministers are staying down the street from me.

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Well I mean, you did have a shirt that said 'enemy of the state' Cops aren't smart enough to realize that's a movie, so they figured it must be true.

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The cookies were well appreciated

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You people are way too anal about this.

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Everyone should be anal about not being harassed by the state.

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It's very sobering to realize what little separates us from "The Man on Horseback."

I'm still bitter about how downtown LA was turned into a police state during the 2000 Democractic convension. Cops literally stationed on streetcorners with helicopters constantly overhead. Peaceful demonstrators (as well as some bicyclists) attacked and arrested by the police. Police overtime cost the city over $1 million, plus we had to pay out a lot in settlements for civil rights lawsuits.

Most of the time, we're America. But sometimes we're Khurgastan.

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eh, what's the harassement? showing the interior of your backpack? showing your id? puh-lease.

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But sometimes we're Khurgastan.


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eh, what's the harassement? showing the interior of your backpack? showing your id? puh-lease.


I don't live in a state under seige, even one that has comparatively few murders when compared to a U.S. city.

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Just be grateful you're not black, you'll get the benefit of institutionalised racism in the police force too. The stories I've heard from colleagues of mine...

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I suppose there were smarter things to wear, other than a black t-shirt advertsizing the movie, Enemy of the State, with Will Smith. Maybe the blue Cubs hat would have been better than the black Mossino cap. The Birkenstock sandals probably just made the outfit. Then there's the black bicycle. Hey, I like black.

So I wasn't really suprised when the pigs pulled me over, demanded to see my ID, and know what was in my backpack (a kitty litter box, in case you're wondering) as I left the Publix. There were, like, twenty pigs in black and armor on bikes. Apparently, they were afraid that the anarchists were going to attack Publix (but not Winn-Dixie across the street).

You see, I had unwittingly stumbled into a meeting of the OAS, which is going on right down the street, and I only found out about on the way home from the airport. I guess my neighborhood's not so bad after all.

Still, I'm one out-of-shape commie, surrounded by twenty pigs who were very much in shape. So I was a good German, and showed them my ID and let them look in my pack.


that's bullshit. I never carry ID if I"m not driving. **** the police.

There's no law that say you have to carry ID.



I shouldn't have to prove who the **** I am to exist in this ****ing world. **** the goverment, **** the police, **** the politicians, and **** anyone who thinks I have to carry around and ID.

for some reasin Che's little story has really pissed me off.

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Well Az, you do live in the Israeli Police state, so your comments are understandable since many people there are harassed in that same way. But in the United States, some might argue that only the 'darker complextioned' people or 'hippie-haired' are harassed by the police, and such harassment is not as common since it doesn't need to be because of less threats of terrorism, etc.

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I don't live in a state under seige, even one that has comparatively few murders when compared to a U.S. city.

Doesn't have anything to do with it ( though you sorta answered yourself in that post). I just fail to see the supposed freedom in not getting your bag checked, or carrying a small piece of plastic all of you get you panties in a twist about.

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I thought che hated America anyway.

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I don't live in a state under seige, even one that has comparatively few murders when compared to a U.S. city.

Doesn't have anything to do with it ( though you sorta answered yourself in that post). I just fail to see the supposed freedom in not getting your bag checked, or carrying a small piece of plastic all of you get you panties in a twist about.


because I shouldn't have to prove who I am to exist in this world. doesn't that make sense?

It should be a human right to have the right to exist.

The very fact that they are asking for an ID mean they suspect you are guilty and you have to prove yourself innocent. Which is complete bullshit.

We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

**** this country, I'm going to overthrow the goverment. This is not what our founding fathers intended.

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I should be able to wear what I want (as long as I'm not nude) and go to the store without being harrassed by the police.

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I should be able to wear what I want (as long as I'm not nude) and go to the store without being harrassed by the police.


exactly. It's like they assume you are guilty, and you have to prove your innocence.

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I should be able to wear what I want

I agree, but that's not what the police stopped you because. It's not a punishment for a crime.

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and go to the store without being harrassed by the police.


And the harassement is.... show card, let look in bag.

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We have a right to privacy in this country, or at least we did have.

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Silly Euros and Israelis don't know what freedom means.

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I agree, but that's not what the police stopped you because. It's not a punishment for a crime.

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And the harassement is.... show card, let look in bag.


I just can't believe you don't see how that is wrong.

It's called privacy. What if he just bought a 16 inch dildo. You think he wants the police to see that?

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We have a right to privacy in this country, or at least we did have.


...or, more specifically in this case, to ride a bicycle down the street with a bag of kitty litter without being surrounded by 20 police officers.

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I completely agree with Diss and Che here. This country is going down that road of authoritarianism with the threat of the introduction of the ID card scheme (at great cost may I add). I think it is an infringement of civil liberties and will oppose it!

 
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