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Durbans remarks about Gitmo are (Time out:0 days after 18-06-2005, 02:48)
Reprehensible, he should be censured by the Senate.
Accurate, he should be praised by the Senate.
Slightly exaggerated, but the controversy is the coming from the right wing.
Traitorous, given their propaganda value to the enemy.
Bananas. Durban is insane and noone cares what he says.
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Oerdin is offline Oerdin
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Nothing to do with fascism, but I think it fits in with another current theme

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classic

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Republicans, retarded or liars?

Dick Durbin, being one of the strongest civil libertarians in the Senate, is easily one of my favorite Senators (perhaps second only to Feingold). He certainly shouldn't have been forced to apologize for such an innocuous statement.

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I doubt hes either. Maybe he was drunk?

actually I think he intended to call the admin nazis, not the troops.



I expected this from Ned, but not you lotm.

Please explain how Durbin called the Admin (or troops) Nazis.

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Cheney said that he was "offended," by these comments.

Rule: The opposite of whatever Cheney says is the right thing

Therefore, we can conclude that the comments were okay

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Ted being stupid

I remember that thread.

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Is this all about the right-wing feigning false outrage


That's all you people ever do, besides make life harder for everyone. Satan has trained you people well.

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a) it appears he hasn't said what he was quoted as saying.
b) in any case it's exaggerated.
c) sensured by senate? WTF?! he's a member of the parliament, he can say whatever he wishes. It's the whole goddamn point.

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a) it appears he hasn't said what he was quoted as saying.
b) in any case it's exaggerated.
c) sensured by senate? WTF?! he's a member of the parliament, he can say whatever he wishes. It's the whole goddamn point.


Az, he said what he is quoted as saying. It has been repeated a lot on the various talk shows this Sunday.

The Dems continue to dance around this and try to change the subject. When they speak on talk shows, their eyes began to stare blankly as if they were reading from talking points, which, of course, they are.

While the Dems struggle with this, every commentator can see just how damaging to America Durbin's statements have been. He must have known the damage he would cause America and the pain it would inflict on our troops, but he did it anyway. He does not deserve to have a high position in the Senate and the Dems would be well advised to remove him as their whip.

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Hah, hah, Ned was so zombie ass-pwned.

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Hah, hah, Ned was so zombie ass-pwned.


Glad you are laughing, Che. But the Dems have taken a real black eye on this one even as al Qa'ida is lauding it up.

But, to you, of course, the fact that America's enemies are rejoicing over Durbin's smears only brightens your day, does it not?

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a) it appears he hasn't said what he was quoted as saying.
b) in any case it's exaggerated.
c) sensured by senate? WTF?! he's a member of the parliament, he can say whatever he wishes. It's the whole goddamn point.


well summarized

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Glad you are laughing, Che. But the Dems have taken a real black eye on this one even as al Qa'ida is lauding it up.

But, to you, of course, the fact that America's enemies are rejoicing over Durbin's smears only brightens your day, does it not?


Ah, the Nediverse in action.

Do you think AQ watches CSPAN? The only reason anyone knows about it is sad sacks like yourself making a mock "controversy" out of it.

But, it is part of a patern of treasonous behavior on your part, so what can we do?

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Ah, the Nediverse in action.

Do you think AQ watches CSPAN? The only reason anyone knows about it is sad sacks like yourself making a mock "controversy" out of it.


Wait, anyone watches C-SPAN?

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Ah, the Nediverse in action.

Do you think AQ watches CSPAN? The only reason anyone knows about it is sad sacks like yourself making a mock "controversy" out of it.

But, it is part of a patern of treasonous behavior on your part, so what can we do?


You have a point, in a way.

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Also, the left is quite creative and amuzing in their posters.

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Glad you are laughing, Che. But the Dems have taken a real black eye on this one even as al Qa'ida is lauding it up.

But, to you, of course, the fact that America's enemies are rejoicing over Durbin's smears only brightens your day, does it not?


The Nediverse strikes again. Once again we are back to a Senator said that torture is bad, read a report done by an official US Government agency which described mistreatment, then he commented that it sounded like something past totalitarian regimes would do instead of what the US would do. He then urged the Administration to change the policy.

Ned claims this is something the democratic party should be ashamed of and that it is helping Al Qaeda.

Ned, you are one piece of work.

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Once again here is the complete quote of what was said word for word. This is what Ned and the liars of right wing talk radio along with Faux News are trying to say has helped Al Qaeda and which the Democrats should be ashamed of saying. As normal the right wing has nothing but lies along with piss & wind.

quote:

When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here [at Guantanamo Bay]--I almost hesitate to put them in the [Congressional] Record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

"On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold. . . . On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

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Do you even read the threads you respond to Oerdin? Boris posted that last page.

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Wow...now I hate Republicans even more...yeah, all this is probably exagerated, but still....

As an American, I actually have to worry about all these crackpots who think they can run a country...

I'm not a communist, but I ain't called Commy for no reason...I would fall under the social democratists...not exactly anti-capitalists, but still pretty far left...

I absolutely hate Republicans...while some democrats are more right economically than I wish, I can deal with them, since they don't bring religious and moral crap into everything and also are more socially permissive...

Its sad that one of the most influential countries in the world is still run partly by insane fundalmentalists who attempt to retard society and slow our progression in the name of God and tradition...if only our American democrats were smarter and more influential...

 
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