20-06-2005 07:59									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Do you even read the threads you respond to Oerdin? Boris posted that last page.

That's why I said "Here it is once again". It seems our friend Ned is still distorting what was said. If you actually read my post you'd know that. It's kind of funny that you misread a post while complaining someone else wasn't reading.

	20-06-2005 08:21									#62
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His ridiculously exaggerated rhetoric has made it and him the story, droning out a large portion of the debate of the topic he was interested in. Bad tatics, bad taste, self defeating, bad senator, typical these days democrat.

	20-06-2005 08:25									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola His ridiculously exaggerated rhetoric has made it and him the story, droning out a large portion of the debate of the topic he was interested in. Bad tatics, bad taste, self defeating, bad senator, typical these days democrat.

Please review the quote above and tell me what was so ridiculous about what he said.

	20-06-2005 08:26									#64
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Hey Commy, wanna join the Apolyton Communist Party? It's open to all points of view on the socialist left. We have Stalinists, Trotskists, Social Democrats, etc.

	20-06-2005 08:28									#65
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Hey Commy, wanna join the Apolyton Communist Party? It's open to all points of view on the socialist left. We have Stalinists, Trotskists, Social Democrats, etc.

Until the Stalinists take over.

Then you'll have Stalinists, Stalinists, Stalinists, and Stalinists.

	20-06-2005 08:31									#66
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Yeah, well, they don't come to party meetings much, unless the subject is Russia.

	20-06-2005 08:45									#67
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You have meetings?

	21-06-2005 03:42									#68
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Bill Frist said Durbin's remarks were extremely damaging to America's security and that he was going to have the remarks stricken from the Congressional Record.

But, by the way all Democrats ganged up Sunday and all said that what was going on at Gitmo was torture, it becomes clear that Durbin's remarks were part of an orchestrated campaign to embarrass the Bush administration, to smear our troops and to smear America. That they help al Qa'ida is seemingly unimportant to them, just as John Kerry was oblivious to the damage his very similar remarks did to America when he smeared our troops in Vietnam in 1971.

It appears the Dems have come full circle once again, from supporting the United States in the war on terror to supporting the enemy.

	21-06-2005 04:27									#69
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*yawn*

	21-06-2005 04:29									#70
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THe same Bill Frist who made an ass of himself by making video diagnosis? Why would I htink anything he says has any validity?

	21-06-2005 04:30									#71
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So it isn't the abuses hurting our reputation and giving the jihadists material to drum up both support and new recurits, it's pointing out that these abuses are occuring in the first place on our soil by our people.

What they don't know can't hurt us, eh Ned?

	21-06-2005 04:31									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Ned It appears the Dems have come full circle once again, from supporting the United States in the war on terror to supporting the enemy.

Unlike some who will always be facists.

Do you actually believe in what the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution stand for? Because maybe you should take another peek at those documents. The ones smearing this nation are Bush and his sheep.

	21-06-2005 04:31									#73
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quote: Originally posted by GePap THe same Bill Frist who made an ass of himself by making video diagnosis? Why would I htink anything he says has any validity?

What are you talking about? Frist never did any such thing...

...yes, he is actually trying to backtrack and act like he never did that.

	21-06-2005 07:40									#74
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quote: Originally posted by techumseh You have meetings?

In the coffee shop, with plenty of beer.

	21-06-2005 09:14									#75
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara In the coffee shop, with plenty of beer.

*checks liquor licence for that coffee shop*

	21-06-2005 09:15									#76
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel Do you actually believe in what the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution stand for? Because maybe you should take another peek at those documents. The ones smearing this nation are Bush and his sheep.

Well, not exactly, but compared to many other countries, I guess you could say Americans are relatively free...so maybe our leadership sucks, but it's not like its going to drastically change the price of a Big Mac and make Wal-Mart suddenly go out of business...Americans still get freedom to do whatever they want, and as long as Republicans and Democrats fight over control of the country and neither party gains much ground, I guess American life won't change very much...Although I would rather have the green party or the leftist Democrats get some more seats and gradually diminish the power of corporations and business in American politics...Oh I wish politics were about controlling society, not about ways to get your face on TV and make money at the same time and be able to kill people who aren't white Christians...

How sad American leadership has become...if only direct democracy on all issues came to effect, then I guess I couldn't blame politicians for all the stupid things America does...

Then, I guess I'd have to blame American teachers...

	21-06-2005 09:39									#77
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quote: Durban, patriot or traitor?

Neither. As Lefty so succinctly put it...

quote: Bad tatics, bad taste, self defeating, bad senator, typical these days democrat.

Durbin, Dean, Conyers et al. sure aren't making it easy for the Dems to achieve any success in 2006...

	21-06-2005 09:45									#78
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If Bush's approval rating stays in the shitter, it won't matter what wacky things some Dem national leaders say.

	21-06-2005 09:49									#79
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Security is the big issue these days and comments like those from Durbin sure as **** aren't going to make the Dems seem more credible on that issue to the average American.

	21-06-2005 09:53									#80
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Congressional elections are usually more local than national. A lot of Bush's low numbers come from domestic issues just as much as foriegn issues.

	21-06-2005 10:03									#81
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Durbin's seat is pretty secure.

Congress's number's, and the president's numbers are, as Imran said, pathetically low. If republicans think a "story" (read manufactured canned 'outrage') like this helps them, then they are deeply deluded.

	21-06-2005 10:12									#82
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Man, its no wonder you guys keep losing elections. You can't even recognize a colossal blunder when it comes out of the mouth of your party leaders...

	21-06-2005 10:17									#83
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Colossal? Drake, it'll be forgotten in a month.

	21-06-2005 10:18									#84
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How contemptible.

What is sad is that Democrats, instead of exposing the right wing idiots who scream bloody outrage for the fools they are, they run away and act as if they have to play be the script created by these morons.

BUt again, after winnig by only 3% of the vote, Bush's second term has been quite a cluncker. His SS innitiative is in the sink-support for his pet war is at an all time low, and his numbers are at an all time low.

So of course, hacks like you need a "story". The only sad part is that democrats in washington decide to play along. That's why democrats are doing badly- they lets the right control the debate, instead of simply laughing in the face of the "outraged".

	21-06-2005 10:21									#85
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quote: Colossal? Drake, it'll be forgotten in a month.

True, but how much do you want to bet it will come back up around mid-2006? The #2 Democrat in the Senate linking American troops with the Nazis and Khmer Rogue is any Republican strategist's wet dream...

	21-06-2005 10:25									#86
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If Congress's numbers remain where they are, Durbin could rape a nun and gut her on national TV and the republicans would still do badly.

	21-06-2005 10:27									#87
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Is that your only argument? That if Bush's and the Republicans numbers stay where they are (which they almost assuredly will not), then this won't matter? That's a pretty stupid and facile argument, even for you...

	21-06-2005 10:32									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Colossal? Drake, it'll be forgotten in a month. True, but how much do you want to bet it will come back up around mid-2006? The #2 Democrat in the Senate linking American troops with the Nazis and Khmer Rogue is any Republican strategist's wet dream...

:shrug: Probably only in Durbin's home state. Remember Cynthia McKinney basically implied that Bush had something to do with 9/11 and in New Jersey, my family never even heard her name (they are registered Republicans). That would be far better propaganda feed if they wanted.

	21-06-2005 10:35									#89
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Don't you see why the Republicans are pushing for censure? They want to force the Dems to go on the record about this, so they can use it against them at a later date.

	21-06-2005 10:36									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Is that your only argument? That if Bush's and the Republicans numbers stay where they are (which they almost assuredly will not), then this won't matter? That's a pretty stupid and facile argument, even for you...

weren;t you one of the people who did not think Lott really said anything bad back when his statement thst cost him the Senate leadership came out? IIRC you were, so your ability to judge the political impact of statements seems rather, well, LOW.

From the very responses in this thread, the only people who will care about this, the only people who DO care about it are people like youself who vote republican anyways.

Your average voter in America is not so stupid and vapid and shallow to chose who will represent them in Congress based significantly on the statements of one senator from Illinois.

And if you think that is so, then you are trully clueless.