26-06-2005 23:48									#1
	Amazing IE7 + RSS Photos Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

http://www.betanews.com/slideshow/I...SS_in_Action/26

RSS Feed Viewing in IE7

	26-06-2005 23:57									#2
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Interesting... they seem to be adopting a Firefox like simplicity in the interface as well.

	27-06-2005 00:17									#3
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In another screenshot, the browser looks exactly like Firefox with the search bar on the top right..

	27-06-2005 00:24									#4
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What's so amazing about this? Nothing that hasn't seen on Firefox (or Opera) before.

	27-06-2005 00:38									#5
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Once IE becomes like Firefox, I'll start using Firefox.

	27-06-2005 01:08									#6
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Well, finally IE is implementing feautures that have been around for a long time .

	27-06-2005 01:11									#7
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I don't care what it looks like, I just want it to render CSS and run javascript correctly.

	27-06-2005 01:51									#8
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But which is better for XXX-sites?

	27-06-2005 02:16									#9
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lynx

	27-06-2005 03:20									#10
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What a joke. Another design lifted straight from someone else.

	27-06-2005 03:21									#11
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And if Markos loves RSS so much, how about replying to my RSS thread in the community forum?

	27-06-2005 03:25									#12
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	27-06-2005 04:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by dv8ed I don't care what it looks like, I just want it to render CSS and run javascript correctly.

You can forget about that

	27-06-2005 07:30									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij You can forget about that

Bah humbug!

	27-06-2005 13:23									#15
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Nice theft of interface ideas from Firefox there . Now everyone who uses IE will say how the great MS "innovated" RSS and make it user-friendly enough for the common man . Makes me sick .

	27-06-2005 15:32									#16
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they are not even in beta yet. they'll fill up the interface with useless stuff later on...

	27-06-2005 16:10									#17
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm Nice theft of interface ideas from Firefox there . Now everyone who uses IE will say how the great MS "innovated" RSS and make it user-friendly enough for the common man . Makes me sick .

Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to. Your kind make me sick

	27-06-2005 17:30									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to. Your kind make me sick

You really have no clue, do you?

	27-06-2005 18:21									#19
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Seems to me like he summed up the average mindset of most users. People who disagree clearly have no clue.

(please don't ban me, UR!)

	27-06-2005 18:26									#20
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Ah. Mr Microsoft. I was wondering when you would show up.

	27-06-2005 18:29									#21
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I thought it was fairly well-known that I support Firefox...

The point is, Firefox was doing what users want. Now IE is doing more of the same. That's a good thing.

I don't give a damn about the political bickering a lot of you get caught up in, all I care about is nice products.

	27-06-2005 19:31									#22
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quote: The point is, Firefox was doing what users want. Now IE is doing more of the same. That's a good thing.

Oh? Any chance I get to make valid and working sites without losing tracks of all the IE hacks? Right, didn't think so...

This has nothing to do with political bickering, this is about IE being an inferior product and IE 7 isn't going to change that.

	27-06-2005 19:33									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG they are not even in beta yet. they'll fill up the interface with useless stuff later on...

	27-06-2005 19:36									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Oh? Any chance I get to make valid and working sites without losing tracks of all the IE hacks? Right, didn't think so... This has nothing to do with political bickering, this is about IE being an inferior product and IE 7 isn't going to change that.

I don't know what your problem is, IE 7 isn't even out and you've branded it inferior. Seems pretty political to me.

The devs have said publically they are improving CSS and PNG support in IE 7.

http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/compatibility/

And I don't know why you have such a hard time creating websites, other people seem to do it fine.

	27-06-2005 19:54									#25
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quote: The devs have said publically they are improving CSS.

So far they only said they will adress the float problems. Min/max-width? Min/max-height? Fixed positions for ALL elements, not just a background image in the body element? Maybe, just maybe the :hover pseudoselector for ALL element?

Nah, why should they bother? As long as people like you are happy...

quote: And I don't know why you have such a hard time creating websites, other people seem to do it fine.

Those other people must be designing for IE only then

	27-06-2005 20:38									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Frankly, I don't actually care what browser I use as long as it does what I want it to.

Actually, you should care. Browsers like IE can do what you want them to do and also do what you don't want them to do (spyware, virus etc.).

	27-06-2005 21:18									#27
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I still don't know how to access RSS.

	27-06-2005 23:39									#28
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I'm with Asher on this one. Ultimately there are far more interesting philosophies out there than the "evil" Microsoft and the messianic GPL. Why do I use Firefox?

More secure, faster rendering, tabbed browsing, RSS-support, clean interface, bookmarks toolbar, cookie control.

If another browser does that better, I'll use that... brand loyalty doesn't come into it and means you'll just end up using an inferior product.

	27-06-2005 23:45									#29
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quote: If another browser does that better, I'll use that... brand loyalty doesn't come into it and means you'll just end up using an inferior product.

But that is the whole point. IE is costing companies millions of dollars. For web designers it's a pain in the ass and who do you think is plonking down the money to make corporate sites IE compatible?

I wonder why mr. Microsoft has left this thread?

	27-06-2005 23:49									#30
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I've been in a conference call, supporting a big-name customer on Linux of all things...

If Firefox had IE's marketshare, it would also be costing companies millions of dollars. Opera, too.

All of them have numerous security vulnerabilities, and you just need one to screw things up.

Opera sucks (though they continue to make efforts to copy Firefox's simplicity) because the designers so obviously "don't get it" in terms of user interface design. Go figure, because most of the Opera users I know are web designers who seem to forget that Opera has some of the worst JavaScript support out of all browsers.

Web Browsers are made for the customer, not for the developer.