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Aug 2001
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Canada approves same-sex marriage
Alexander Panetta
Canadian Press
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Canada becomes the third country to legalize gay marriage after its Parliament approved landmark legislation late Tuesday despite strong opposition from Conservatives and religious leaders.
OTTAWA -- It was fought in courtrooms, in legislatures, in street protests, and one of the most turbulent debates in Canadian history was settled Tuesday with a vote in Parliament.
The House of Commons voted 158 to 133 to adopt controversial legislation that will make Canada the third country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage.
Several Liberals marked the occasion by invoking the memory of their party's philosopher king, Pierre Trudeau.
It was the late Liberal prime minister who decriminalized homosexuality in 1969, and whose Charter of Rights and Freedoms became the legal cudgel that smashed the traditional definition of marriage.
Barely two years ago the Liberal government was still fighting same-sex couples in courts across the land.
It changed its tune amid an onslaught of legal verdicts in eight provinces that found traditional marriage laws violated the charter's guarantee of equality for all Canadians.
"(This) is about the Charter of Rights," Prime Minister Paul Martin said earlier Tuesday.
"We are a nation of minorities. And in a nation of minorities, it is important that you don't cherry-pick rights.
"A right is a right and that is what this vote tonight is all about."
But there was no unanimity even within Liberal ranks. More than two dozen Liberal MPs voted against the controversial Bill C-38, to cheers from the Tory caucus.
One even exiled himself to the backbenches to vote against the bill. Joe Comuzzi resigned his cabinet seat Tuesday as minister for northern Ontario's economic development.
The House immediately adjourned for the summer after the same-sex vote, and won't meet again until Sept. 26 -- ending one of the most tumultuous sessions in Canadian parliamentary history.
The same-sex marriage bill will become official once it receives approval in the Senate, likely within days. With it the barriers to gay and lesbian weddings will tumble in Alberta, P.E.I., Nunavut and the Northwest Territories -- the last jurisdictions where courts have not yet struck down the marriage law.
The legislation applies to civic weddings at public places, like city halls and courthouses. No religious groups will be forced to sanctify same-sex marriages if they don't want to.
But Conservatives promise the debate isn't over yet.
Leader Stephen Harper said he will bring back the same-sex marriage law for another vote if he wins the next election.
"There will be a chance to revisit this in a future Parliament," Harper said. "Our intention is to have a free vote."
How Harper might handle the issue in future is unclear since almost every provincial and territorial government has made gay marriage legal.
The Liberals said Harper has only one tool at his disposal: the Charter's notwithstanding clause, an escape hatch which no federal government has ever used.
"They're going to have to at least be honest with the people," said Justice Minister Irwin Cotler.
"They're going to have to acknowledge that they want to override the (Charter of Rights), override constitutional-law decisions in nine jurisdictions in this country, override a unanimous decision of the Supreme Court of Canada, override the rule of law in this country."
Cotler now occupies Pierre Trudeau's former Justice Department office, with a poster of the late justice minister-turned-prime minister overlooking his desk.
The Tories weren't sharing their fond memories of Trudeau.
Alberta MP David Chatters lamented what he described as Canada's "moral decay" and blamed Trudeau's promise of a just society as the start of that decay in the 1960s.
But an Irish-born rookie Liberal MP was quoting Trudeau's famous line about the state having no place in the bedrooms of the nation.
Michael Savage spoke poignantly about a member of his own family, and described the tolerance that he says makes Canada special.
"I have not compromised my faith in supporting this legislation. I have embraced it," he said.
"The fact that we (in Canada) are among the first is not something we should hide. It's something we should celebrate. . . .
"(We are) a nation of equality. A nation of strength. A nation of compassion. A nation that believes we're stronger together than we are apart. And a nation where we celebrate equality. . . .
"We will send a statement to the world that in Canada gays and lesbians will not be considered second-class citizens."
One Tory MP scoffed at the Liberals' self-proclaimed defence of human rights. He said the government has failed to protect the rights of children by refusing to toughen child-pornography laws or by raising the age of sexual consent above 14.
"I'm sick and tired of hearing people on that side of the House talking about rights, rights," Myron Thompson said.
"I can point to dozens of things we've seen in the last 12 years where they have refused to give rights to certain individuals."
In the last two years, same-sex marriage has gone from being legally feasible to a fait accompli.
After a series of legal challenges the walls started tumbling down on June 10, 2003.
The Ontario Court of Appeal ruled in favour of Michael Leshner and Michael Stark, a gay Toronto couple, and ordered public institutions like courthouses and city halls to immediately begin issuing same-sex marriage licences.
Scores of same-sex American couples came to Canada to be married. Thousands of Canadians exercised their new right.
The Ontario verdict became written in stone days later, when then-prime minister Jean Chretien announced he would throw in the towel in the fight against gay and lesbian couples.
The federal government refused to appeal the Ontario ruling, and the verdict was subsequently repeated in courts in British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.
When Martin became prime minister, he avoided discussing the politically sensitive issue and punted it off until after the June 2004 federal election.
But he came out strongly in favour of same-sex marriage in the dying days of the campaign. His Liberals were re-elected with a minority government.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:20
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Will the religious groups that refuse to do so be persecuted here in Canada? Will they lose their tax exemptation... |
No. An amendment to the bill protects the charity status of religious groups that refuse to perform G&L marriages.
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:20
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Liberal No Votes (32)
Bonin, Ray
Boshcoff, Ken
Cannis, John
Carr, Gary
Chamberlain, Brenda
Commuzzi, Joe
Cuzner, Rodger
Galloway, Roger
Hubbard, Charles
Karygiannis, Jim
Khan, Wajid
Lee, Derek
Lastewka, Walt
Longfield
Malhi, Gurbax
Maloney, John
Matthews, Bill
McCallum, John
McKay, John
McTeague, Dan
Pachetti, Massimo
Savoy, Andy
Scarpaleggia, Francis
Simard, Ray
Simms, Scott
Steckle, Paul
Szabo, Paul
Tonks, Alan
Ur, Rosemary
Wappel, Tom
Wilfert, Bryon
Zed, Paul
Bloc No Votes (5)
Bouchard, Robert
Cardin, Serge
Gaudet, Roger
Perron, Gilles
Thibault, Louis
NDP No Votes (1)
Desjarlais, Bev NDP
Independent No Votes (2)
O’Brien, Pat IND
Kilgour, David Ind
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Right, but it doesn't protect the churches from having to host receptions, and the rest. |
Protect? An odd word.
But whether a church can discriminate against people who want to rent its facilities would be determined by existing laws. So there is no need to cover it in the new law.
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Max Webster
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Good. Finally getting that nonsense over with. Much ado about nothing. If the gays want to marry each other, I could care less.
So when is this government going to get around to decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana?
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shawnmmcc
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When the USA gets over its stupid hard-on over "illicit drugs" and we elect some representatives who truly undestand history (can you say "Prohibition"). Thank God for Canada, Americans need somewhere close to home as an icon of freedom.
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