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http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/natio...06.html?ref=rss

When Calgary/Alberta hosted the G8 a few years ago, there weren't any real big events that came out of it. No violent protests, no rioting, whatever.

Every time the G8 gets hosted by someone else, there's always violence it seems.

Is the rest of the world less civilized?

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Maybe it's the cold?

Come to Finland, we got plenty. No riots.

Did it rain in Alberta? That usually chils people...

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canada so desperate for recognition... and english speaking canada, which is worse!
i'll explain: noone knew what canada was let alone where in order to go and protest

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canada so desperate for recognition... and english speaking canada, which is worse!
i'll explain: noone knew what canada was let alone where in order to go and protest

Everyone recognizes Greece as a failed has-been society that at one point banned video games.

Canada is recognized as a progressive, modern country.

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so much trapped frustration
and what's worse being from a "country" noone knows what's there for or why
"but it can hold a great G8 i tell you!!"
sad but funny

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Maybe it's the cold?

Come to Finland, we got plenty. No riots.

Did it rain in Alberta? That usually chils people...

It was held in the summer, it was warm and sunny.

Maybe it was because we gave Bush the legendary Calgary White Cowboy hat.



Though the G8 itself was held somewhere more remote outside the city, which may've played a factor...

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Maybe

Did it rain in Alberta? That usually chils people...



Nope beautiful weather the whole time.

The key was holding the actual G8 in a remote mountain resort and close access on the only roads in. Security for the leaders was easier and the protesters could gather as they wished at the entrances to the roads or at the nearest city (Calgary). Protests were permitted and the police seemed pretty hands off EXCEPT to the extent they guided marches.

That plus I don't think the protesters got much local support. Calgary is affluent and very pro-business. When thousands and thousands of people work for those mutinational oil companies its a bit tougher to get people worked up about protesting globablism

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Originally posted by paiktis22
so much trapped frustration
and what's worse being from a "country" noone knows what's there for or why
"but it can hold a great G8 i tell you!!"
sad but funny

You need to try harder, your national insults hold no weight with that flag attached to your post.

Greece isn't even significant enough to BE in the G8, which makes it all the more funny.

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You need to try harder, your national insults hold no weight with that flag attached to your post.

Greece isn't even significant enough to BE in the G8, which makes it all the more funny.


I'm suprised you even reply. Paitkis has been my only poster on ignore for a long time. Every now and then I turn it off but then realize I couldn't be bothered and turn it back on

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http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/natio...06.html?ref=rss

When Calgary/Alberta hosted the G8 a few years ago, there weren't any real big events that came out of it. No violent protests, no rioting, whatever.

Every time the G8 gets hosted by someone else, there's always violence it seems.

Is the rest of the world less civilized?


I think it was simply to tough to get enough people in Alberta together to protest, that would surely be the largest meeting for 100 years, yet hell maybe even the G8 was!

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They had tons of people fly in from out of town and around the world to protest. They blocked many streets with their protests, but none were violent.

There was, IIRC, one incident where some out-of-towners started to tear some stuff down, but they were subdued by fellow protestors.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J26_G8_Protests

J26 was a smaller-size convergence in what is commonly called the anti-globalization movement. It took place in Calgary, Canada in June 2002 during the Group of Eight summit in nearby Kananaskis.

A protest called Tak Capital! took place in Ottawa on the same day, targeting those who could not make it out west.

J26 was also the name of a Night March and Street Party held a year later.

Background

When the Group of Eight (G8) decided to hold a summit in the mountain resort of Kananaskis, Canada, local activists prepared a response. Initial plans included a large tent city, directly outside the summit area (which was to be surrounded by a fence and defended by thousands of police and soldiers). Plans for this fell through, however, and most G8 protest was confined to the city of Calgary. Calgary, the closest city to Kananaskis, was to house the lower-level G8 delegates who would be linked to the summit via video-link.
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Prelude

In the week before the G8 meetings began, the Group of 6 Billion (G6B) counter-summit was held in Calgary. On Sunday, June 23rd, the first anti-G8 protest was held, taking the form of a permitted, non-violent Community Solidarity March, during which some 6,000 people marched over a short distance and held a rally near the area where G8 delegates would be housed. Over the next couple of days, a number of other small protests were held.

On the evening of June 25th, some 2,000 people took part in the Showdown at the Ho-Down, a march and street party outside of a party being held by Calgary's mayor for lower-level G8 delegates.
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J26

At 6 A.M. on the morning of June 26th, protestors began to converge in the east end of the downtown core. The plan was to stage a "snake march" to close down the main thouroughfares in the downtown core, preventing corporate offices from functioning and impeding the lower-level G8 meetings. The march route was to be improvised by a nucleus in the centre, based on the situation.

The snake march got underway at 7 A.M. The march moved along steadily, stopping at several corporate targets and creating gridlock in some areas. The city police made only one attempt to turn the march back, and eventually backed down. Riot police remained hidden from view, with several teams of police mounted on bikes shadowing the march. By late morning, some 5,000 protestors had converged on the downtown core, and the snake march came to an end. At this point, the core was broken into "red" and "yellow" zones, with a "green" zone across the river. The zone system was developed for the Summit of the Americas demonstrations in Quebec City the previous year. The red zone was an area for groups intending to practice active civil disobedience with a high risk of arrest. The yellow zone was for demonstrators taking part in non-permitted events that carried a slight risk of arrest.

In the yellow zone, protestors took over Olympic Plaza and staged a Die-In action. In the red zone, a march began, made up in large part by the "black bloc". The march took over two intersections outside of large corporate headquarters and held them while some protestors played a game of soccer in the street and others graffittied the area. Later on, protestors barricaded a McDonald's outlet and scuffled with police. Other protestors attempted to control the streets around the hotel and convention centre where G8 delegates were meeting.
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Conclusion

The J26 protests were much less violent than similar demonstrations in the few previous years. Despite some confrontations with police, no teargas was used and only a handful of people were arrested.

The protests did not significantly impede the G8 meetings from taking place. Many corporate offices in Calgary were shut down for part of the day (in some cases the whole day), but in many cases, this was probably due to the fact that many office workers simply didn't bother going in to work, knowing that the protests could trap them in gridlock.

The effect of J26 on the movement in general was also mixed. Many demonstrators who had come to the protests expecting a broader confrontation left demoralised. The protests did, however, manage to direct the media's attention to the issues of human rights, social justice and environmentalism that motivated the protestors; the small activist community in Calgary was also bolstered by the demonstrations, leading to the largest protests in the city's history the following year.

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They had tons of people fly in from out of town and around the world to protest. They blocked many streets with their protests, but none were violent.

There was, IIRC, one incident where some out-of-towners started to tear some stuff down, but they were subdued by fellow protestors.


I believe the official report was that there were no G-8 related arrests, violence or property damage. The fact that the actual leaders were so inaccessible probably played a big part in that. It seems a lot of the violence elsewhere is when large crowds gather in proximity to the actual meeting site. Then police feel the need for a large presence. THEN either the police get the idea that they need to disperse the crowd OR some protesters decide to charge a barricade. Either way leads to trouble.

At Kananaskis, police had a many km buffer zone-- Even if people ran the roadblock at the front, there could have been 10 more roadblocks on the way in.


Edit -- Asher's wiki reference indicates arrests while I could have sworn I saw a story from Calgary media with a police spokeman saying no arrests-- I might have to look for that

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Canada. What is it? Noone knows but they hold G8s and noone protests and they're in the G8! Canada.... if you ever find where it is maybe you should go and ... well... better go someplace else

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Hmmm....one of the world's eight richest nations or a poor suburb of Istanbul. Tough choice.

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So is Iceland and it's good for the reindeers.
Canadians must be the newest, shortest joke around

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Hmmm....one of the world's eight richest nations or a poor suburb of Istanbul. Tough choice.


oh, man, that's evil.

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And then you wonder why everyone is against Israel

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So is Iceland and it's good for the reindeers.


When did Iceland get a trillion dollar economy?

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Let me make it obvious since I now begin to understand the reasons for "Canada" never being absolutely nothing:

trillion or quadrillion doesn't mean anything if you're living in a frozen barren wasteland with polar bears keeping you company and not knowing why you are there or where the hell you are

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it must be much like finland but dont tell pekka

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We can't help it if some of the best beaches tend to be in third world countries. Good service, though, as the little Greek peasants climb over each other for our nickels.

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I think you have some things confused. The only ones climbing anything aren't greeks and it ain't nickels they're climbing on either (if you catch my drift)
otoh i can understand... the cold and all and the ashers...

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We can't help it if some of the best beaches tend to be in third world countries. Good service, though, as the little Greek peasants climb over each other for our nickels.


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Where is that? I want to find it on google earth

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Canada is so utterly bland that even its protests are boring.

That's nothing to be proud of, actually.

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Where is that? I want to find it on google earth


IT is kananaskis resort, a very nice ski area probably 60 km from Calgary-- Go west and then a little south

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It should be held at antarctica, that would keep those G8 bastards in line that this isn't a vacation, and largely prevent protests.

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IT is kananaskis resort, a very nice ski area probably 60 km from Calgary-- Go west and then a little south

The easiest way to find it on Google Earth is to look up Canmore, Alberta.

Unfortunately Google Earth has very low resolution images of the area, and it looks like it's coated in radiation due to the green tinge.

 
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