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Dis is offline Dis
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why does the news have to point out if any americans were injured or killed?

Is an american life worth more than a british life?

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There's nothing wrong with that, Diss. If the main headline on CNN was "4 Americans hurt in terrorist attack!" and all else was being ignored then it would be a problem, but that isn't what is happening.

Why shouldn't an American news network report how many Americans had been hurt? Isn't that a relevant story to their viewers?

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For example, in the days after 911 most news agencies over here were reporting how many British people had been killed or were still missing. It's normal to do so.

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why does the news have to point out if any americans were injured or killed?

Is an american life worth more than a british life?



No more than is a Polish or French life. At least one Polish woman and one Frenchman are among the missing, so far. London is an international city, with a multi-national multi-cultural heritage and workforce.

Rudolph Giuliani was at a meeting near Liverpool Street when one of the bombs went off- he was on television on Thursday praising the British emergency services and the response of the British public and police.

A couple from 'a small town in Georgia', as they put it, had just left their hotel when the bus bomb went off.


It's only natural for the news media of other countries to be concerned about the welfare of citizens from those countries, especially when as seems unfortunately likely, they may be counted among the murdered.

Oh and diplomat ?

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So far I've managed most of my adult life not to let terrorism alter my way of life- it doesn't mean I ignore it, it just means I don't let it TERRORISE me- which is after all one of the objectives of urban terrorism.

You might want to refresh your memory on I.R.A bombing campaigns in the United Kingdom- there've been quite a few, so the British are used to this sort of thing.

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This demonstrates how this affects many people from many background including nationalities and ethnicities. The thing is I suspect there will be muslims who have been killed and injured by this attack. It just demonstrates how indiscriminate these killings are...

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This demonstrates how this affects many people from many background including nationalities and ethnicities. The thing is I suspect there will be muslims who have been killed and injured by this attack. It just demonstrates how indiscriminate these killings are...



At least one- her father and brother and grandfather were interviewed on television last night outside the East London mosque in Whitechapel. She had been on the tube at Aldgate on her way to work.


The attack was unreservedly condemned at Friday prayers by the mosque's imam.

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yeah saw that on the news last night, goes to show that grief is the same, whatever your colour or creed

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about all these attacks. First on the list would be the iraq one. greek journalists had free passage everywhere and some of them did very daring stuff like going exactly to the places the angloamericans bombarded. that was foolish but it provided us shocking images with babies being blown apart, the screaming pain of black clad mothers seeing their children dismebered etc. These are all in the archives btw and were all shown on TV.
I particulalry remember a journalist running down a street as the angloamericans were bombarding it and other people were running too and there was a young Iraqi who saw the greek journalist running with his microphone and commenting and went straight to him shouting "**** USA" (apparently mistaking him for american). he was saved after he shouted back "yunan! yunan!" which is what greece is called in iraqi I guess.

Next were the blasts in constantinople/Istabul. those were shocking too because they were so close, actually they were exactly outside our door. those were frightening indeed and seeing what they caused was bad enough. to the honest greek I think there was also compassion much like when the earthquakes hit both countries. the turks didnt owe nothing to have to go through this.

next came the attacks on spain. those were just surreal. freakish.

then the "you're going to fail athens 2004, greeks" english got bombed. again deplorable no matter how you feel about that country.

now I'm afraid something could happen to Italy but that rascal berlusconi was quick to say he'll diminish italian presence in iraq. so hopefully maybe that will be enough.

for some reason I'm not at scared about Denmark. I just don't think it fits. Of course there was no way I could say that Spain of all placed would get attacked. The instant the spanish police invaded that appartment where the terrorists were hiding and the latter blew themselves up was dramatic too.

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Man, I was worried about you, but it seems that you're back in prime trolling shape. I especially like "angloamerican". It's a nice touch, reminds of watching Russian state TV.

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i guess you can simply call it trolling and be done with it. i dont care that much

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Hell, if you actually believe some of the stuff you're saying, I'd say that you're pretty ****ed up.

Seriously, though, I'll refrain from trying to analyze the causes,reasons and pretexts for such an attack. That's what the other thread is for.

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Hell, if you actually believe some of the stuff you're saying, I'd say that you're pretty ****ed up.


What do you mean "believe"?
I'm less ****ed up than anyone who supported that war though

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believe = "think that it is the truth"

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believe = "think that it is the truth"


So what are you saying?
a) that I'm lying
or
b) that what we saw on TV were staged?

b) would be the ultimate hiding your head in the sand on your part! If you think it's a) you can ask for the videos at the chanels! Most were private btw.

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I wasn't talking about what you said here .

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eh?!
I'm confused

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From 20 hours ago, on this very page..

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I guess this will be post number 500

Instead of having this thread closed and a new one started, we will just let this one go.

Remember... no trolling, put politics in the other thread, and be civil.

Carry on.


But I guess one poster lately thinks he's so very special. Let's see what Ming says.

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Ming thinks that whatever I say that it isn't in favor of whatever he thinks it should be, I'm trolling. But out of curiosity, what exactly is your objection?

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Just listened to a description of the recovery efforts under King's Cross. It sounds like it could be the closest thing to Dante's hell around.

60C, dark, people that died more than two days ago and are mostly not in one piece, vermin (rats i guess), I did wish i wasn't eating my dinner whilst watching the news.

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From 20 hours ago, on this very page..



But I guess one poster lately thinks he's so very special. Let's see what Ming says.


Don't bother - guess that paikitis is trying to climb into yet another bottle of raki.

On topic, it seems that earlier claims of widespread timing of the explosions was wrong - instead of a 50 minutes interval, it now seems that it was 50 secs. That makes more sense - if it was 50 mins, there would have been time enough to evacuate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4666591.stm

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Don't bother - guess that paikitis is trying to climb into yet another bottle of raki.


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paiktis, people like you with no respect for human life and emotions should not post in these threads.

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Oh, for Christ's sake will you all just take it somewhere else? For the record, I don't give a rat's arse who started it. End it now.


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Just listened to a description of the recovery efforts under King's Cross. It sounds like it could be the closest thing to Dante's hell around.

60C, dark, people that died more than two days ago and are mostly not in one piece, vermin (rats i guess), I did wish i wasn't eating my dinner whilst watching the news.


It doesn't bear thinking about, does it? How you go down into something like that and then turn up for work the next days is beyond belief.

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now I'm afraid something could happen to Italy but that rascal berlusconi was quick to say he'll diminish italian presence in iraq. so hopefully maybe that will be enough.

for some reason I'm not at scared about Denmark. I just don't think it fits. Of course there was no way I could say that Spain of all placed would get attacked. The instant the spanish police invaded that appartment where the terrorists were hiding and the latter blew themselves up was dramatic too.


In theory, Bin Laden's boys are at war with the entire non-Islamic world so we're all targets. It wouldn't surprise me if they hit somewhere like Russia next.

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I thought it was common ground for everyoen they'd strike first where governemnts are closest to the US (ie Iraq invading countries).

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In theory, Bin Laden's boys are at war with the entire non-Islamic world so we're all targets. It wouldn't surprise me if they hit somewhere like Russia next.


Well they have, as the Chechen rebels supposedly received AQ funding as well.

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It doesn't bear thinking about, does it? How you go down into something like that and then turn up for work the next days is beyond belief.


I wouldn't be able to, that's for sure. Strong stomach I have, but maybe not that strong.

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Not sure if anybody else has posted this link (or one similar), but to see the faces of the people still missing, some with children and all with family desperate to contact them .. to look the victims in the eyes, knowing they were just going about there business, as we all do day in, day out .. brings home the real tragedy, the personal one each family is now suffering ..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4664209.stm

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supposedly they are suspecting a maroccan. thats what le monde reported yesterday.

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