21-07-2005 22:07									#121
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Uploaded. http://www.geocities.com/snoopy369/index.html

No pics, as i have to get ready for work.

	22-07-2005 00:16									#122
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Floreat City continues to grow as a slum. Hooray!

The city has problems... the budget is barely breaking even due to high loan payments (due to rapid expansion) and the treasury is empty. And the electric grid is running at 100%+ capacity. But the loans are almost paid off, and hopefully increased prosperity will lead to more wealthy folk moving in. And the commerce sector is growing healthily.

No pics becuase there's not much to look at.

http://home.comcast.net/~jonny11788/FloreatCity10.rar

	22-07-2005 02:04									#123
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Oceana continues to expand slowly, but is about to hit a wall...

So far all of the expansion has been on existing land surface, unfortunately, with the exception of the land in the northeast (which is reserved for future high-tech development) almost all the land surface is covered. To expand further will either require more money (build up not out), or more money (reclaim more land). At the moment Oceana is keeping afloat by taking out loans to cover the interest on existing loans, however the budget is starting to stabalize so the next 5 years looks promising.

As an aside, why won't garbage trucks use ferries?

www.atragon.ca/simcity/oceana2010.rar

	22-07-2005 02:24									#124
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Tartarus expanded its heavy industry mass transit system in the last 5 years. The Freeway was expanded to the North and the the East, connecting with Jonny and mrmitchell. The rail system was also expanded through the new areas. The bridge accross the Styx was very expensive, but opened the Elysian Fields for development. This will be a place for the blessed and wealthy, and the resident's will have the best services.

@mrmitchell, the freeway connection a made doesn't actually go through on your side. I ask that you do a bit of terraforming in order complete the connection. If its too expensive, I'm sure we could work out some sort of agreement.

http://home.comcast.net/~epwood1/City_-_Epwood.zip

	22-07-2005 03:58									#125
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I really like the look of Elmwood..Making the most of the availiable space, and reminds me of the rural/small towns that connect the bigger towns round here

	22-07-2005 03:59									#126
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I might even like the look of some of the other towns if only I could see them!

Im guessing i need to buy rush hour to have a closer look at your towns?

	22-07-2005 04:03									#127
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I had enough of dealing with bugs and commute time a LONG time ago

	22-07-2005 04:07									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Snotty I might even like the look of some of the other towns if only I could see them! Im guessing i need to buy rush hour to have a closer look at your towns?

We usually post pictures every save but things can be pretty ugly at the beginning. I and others posted pictures earlier in the thread.

quote: I had enough of dealing with bugs and commute time a LONG time ago

Thats why we're using mods that help fix the commute times.

	22-07-2005 04:07									#129
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This is Elysian Fields, the newest addition to Tartarus.



And this is a picture of the expanded freeway and Industry.

	22-07-2005 04:57									#130
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Very nice looking... mine is nowhere nealy as developed... yet.

(once I figure out how to solidify my monthy income I plan on reclaiming land)

	22-07-2005 05:29									#131
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Where did you spend all your money? I thought you did the terraforming in god mode before building?

If im in that much debt i usually scrap all my education and health buildings, give them only water, build up citizens (for tax) then start rebuilding health then education and stay in the black.

I noticed your big medical center has too much ambulance funding too, about $240 too much.

Upgrade all your low density to medium too for more tax payers, although it looks like you already did some.

	22-07-2005 05:31									#132
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I did, it's the monthly costs that killed me initially. Hmm, thanks for that hint about the ambulance funding.

Once I'm clear of the loans I'm in the black.

	22-07-2005 05:42									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Atragon I did, it's the monthly costs that killed me initially. Hmm, thanks for that hint about the ambulance funding. Once I'm clear of the loans I'm in the black.

That's the boat I'm in right now too.

$1700/month on loans really sends the budget to hell. But in the end it'll probably be worth it, I hope...

	22-07-2005 06:09									#134
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1.7K? I'm up to 2.6K... but my deficit is only 2.1K so I'm making progress.

May main irritation is that ferries don't seem to charge any fees.

	22-07-2005 06:47									#135
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quote: I did, it's the monthly costs that killed me initially. Hmm, thanks for that hint about the ambulance funding

I find it generally cheaper to build more facilities and not fund ambulances or school buses.

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7/9, just MrMitchell's Hot Springs and Ludd's Glemshire now.

	22-07-2005 07:33									#136
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Nah, even the perfect pathfinding mod wasn't enough

	22-07-2005 07:41									#137
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Yeah, to balance Oceana's budget I'd just eliminate all bus and ambulance funding, and maybe build some new schools/clinics with 0 bus funding. This works out way cheaper.

Also the large schools have a somewhat larger zero bus funding coverage. For example the Large High School busless coverage is nearly large enough to cover an entire island, saving $60 on bus funding. Whats more they are more efficient, with every $ educating about 25% more students. They do cost $7000 vs $1000 tho, it would take about 7-9 years to pay for the upfront cost.

The cons of the larger schools is a larger footprint, the large high school is 2 tiles longer (but no wider, 16 v 24 tiles) and the large elementary school is 1 tile longer and wider (6 vs 12 tiles). When using 0 bus funding it might be better off going 2 small elementary schools since they take half the space, altough a small elementary school can only service about 5 skyscrapers, while a large can take 30 (also the large elementarys require about 10% less funding per student). I don't see any reason to not use the large high schools.

	22-07-2005 09:11									#138
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The large facility would have to be built at the center of the neighborhood, however, taking up valuable high-customer commercial space. Two smaller schools could be placed off center.

	22-07-2005 09:19									#139
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No actually because the larger schools have a larger radius they can be placed even further away.

	22-07-2005 09:20									#140
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BTW - Blake, you seem to have significantly messed up the edge on my side. I've already built up the south enough that it would be destroyed if I reconciled, so I'd appreciate it if you'd reconcile your edge to mine Thanks!!

	22-07-2005 12:42									#141
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That's weird since I've done absolutely nothing to that border other than creating the rail. Now I look at your city, and mine, both want to reconcile ALL the borders with other cities. I guess we just don't reconcile borders in these games.

	22-07-2005 17:37									#142
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Hmm. Odd... mine only wanted to reconcile with your side, when I opened it ...

	22-07-2005 18:39									#143
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The game does weird things with borders, just don't reconcile.

	22-07-2005 20:12									#144
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I've just discovered that you can in fact toll pedestrians! Bliss!

	23-07-2005 06:15									#145
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What is this, Sim Theme Park?

	23-07-2005 07:11									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Blake I've just discovered that you can in fact toll pedestrians! Bliss!

That's just plain nuts.

	23-07-2005 07:34									#147
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Oh the insanity!


Very easy to do, just take a length of mass tranist where Sims are funnelled through (they'll try and avoid a good tollwringing if possible), cut it, build a station on each segment and connect with a C shaped bit of road =).

The sims hop off the train, hop in a taxi (visually all the cars are taxis anyway), go through the toll booths and pay their tolls =). The amount of income you can get off 10K sims is insane...

This is a bit too silly to actually do in my city, except maybe as a joke somewhere, and the funnelling isn't set up properly.

Tho if you want to charge more for your monorail service...

	23-07-2005 08:04									#148
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Talk about being taken for a ride!

I would imagine this adds considerably to commute time, however.

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While waiting for the last two updates, been visiting som eof the other cities. Some comments:

Tartarus: If Hell had a factory town this is what it would look like. From the belching stacks to the Sisyphus Homes projects, this sure is not what one'd expect at the heart of the region...

Takeshi Bay: While Tartarus might be dirtier, traffic is far worse in Takeshi Bay, despite it's world-class monorail system. Maybe the lack of bus stops near the industrial station has something to do with it...

Ohnoe: Despite lovingly named housing such as Project Freefall and a brute of a re-educational facility, this city's not all that bad. Getting around is rather expensive, fortunately, with the mixing of zones, long trips aren't that necessary...

Oceania: Home to the world's first amphibuous school buses, this city works quite well. Now that I notice that garbage doesn't cross water without a bridge, perhaps there's a smelly mess back in Elmwood also...

Silicon Beach: Still no silicon, just a bunch of sand and smog. More liveable than the other two industrial powerhouses though...

Floreat: Another nice town, and it looks like a commercial boom is on the horizon..

Last edited by :) Smiley on 23-07-2005 at 11:10

	23-07-2005 22:10									#149
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*bump*

In the interest of keeping things moving, I intend to play 2015 tonight, with or without the last two cities...

	23-07-2005 22:46									#150
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I won't be able to play anymore untill next week, so don't wait for me.