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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:37
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Only in America...
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Kaak
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really, i'm baffled. i really think anyone can pass high school classes if they apply themselves. the idea is to make people work for it, not to dumb it down to where it doesn't take any effort
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002
time: 05:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Because speaking English properly is ultimately better for their futures? |
Whose fault is that, though?
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002
time: 05:37
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But I know what you mean, Boris. Your argument is that it is how it is, so its in their best interest to conform. I agree with you, but I'm also arguing that this is not ideal. Ideally their variant of English should be allowed to flourish and gain acceptance from "standard" speakers.
Oh, and if you think Ebonics is just gangsta talk, you're very wrong.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
time: 07:37
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Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
But I know what you mean, Boris. Your argument is that it is how it is, so its in their best interest to conform. I agree with you, but I'm also arguing that this is not ideal. Ideally their variant of English should be allowed to flourish and gain acceptance from "standard" speakers.
Oh, and if you think Ebonics is just gangsta talk, you're very wrong. |
This isn't even Spanish, let alone Jamaican patois -- this isn't something spoken by a majority of the nation's citizens, or even by a sizeable minority. It's something spoken by a small and largely disadvantaged group within American society, and as such it's simply not an alternative to English. In fact, to educate children in the way proposed won't empower them, but marginalize them -- ghettoize them, figuratively and literally.
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002
time: 05:37
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Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
This isn't even Spanish, let alone Jamaican patois -- this isn't something spoken by a majority of the nation's citizens, or even by a sizeable minority. It's something spoken by a small and largely disadvantaged group within American society, and as such it's simply not an alternative to English. In fact, to educate children in the way proposed won't empower them, but marginalize them -- ghettoize them, figuratively and literally. |
Good plan. Because trying to convert them to standard speech for the past 150+ years hasn't ghettoized or marginalized them either.
I say its time for new thinking and a new plan.
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