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Originally posted by Pekka
I don't see what the problem is. Let them register. Let them be active. And the minute they show any illegal activity, especially if we are talking about clear discrimination or other racial hate things, bring the hammer down. Before that, I don't see anything wrong with it, even though it is kind suspicious for sures. Keep an eye on them and let them play nice and if they can't play nice, then smash it. |
That wouldn't be fair. THe Mexicans have "La Raza" which of course means "The Race" and whose slogan is "Everything for the race, to others, nothing"
I can't think of a more racist sentiment then that. And yet they get to go before state and federal legislatures and whine that they need more tax dollars and affirmative action to compete against whites.
And you know who "La Raza's" chief funder is? The Ford Foundation. A company getting ready to chuck it's union out the door. Ford wants to hire cheap Mexican labor here in the US for what they can get them for in Mexico- $1.40 per hour.
ANd let's not forget MeCha and the black panthers and the NAACP and the ADL and the blah blah blah.
Your job is next.
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Good question, Dis.
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
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Originally posted by Epublius Rex
All parties have a right to exist in America- especially those with free beer!
Actually, under the Constitution, they need no signatures to be a bonafide political party- nor do they need your approval or anyone else's- that is the beauty of the COnstitution, the right of political dissent. It's too bad that your education prevents you from seeing and understanding that.
Political activism is the very esence of free speech- the speech that is unpopular is that which needs to be protected.
Besides, what is "PC" and what isn't changes from decade to decade and from generation to generation.
You purport to be a liberal, I deduce that from your comment on Republicans, so if I am wrong, correct me. Given that, I assume that you did not vote for and or do not like Jorge Bush as the president.
Why then do you agree with Jorge on the topic of illegal alien migration and on the topic of mass migration as a whole? I deduce that because you do not like this new party (insert name here) stance on immigration. Jorge Bush is all in favor of illegal alien migration- he has said so repeatedly and has called for amnesty for 12 million of them. He has also stated that he believes and wants to see that any employer who is willing to pay $5.10 per hour should be able to hire anyone in the world willing to work for that amount of money at any job an america will not do for $5.10 per hour.
Now, I am old enough to remember a time when Democrats understood what a scab was and also what labor union cracking was all about, but apparently, they are now all in favor of it. Under this new "PC" thought pattern, no one in this country presently employed is safe from loosing their job to someone from a foreign country willing to work for less- which includes your mommy and daddy who support you.
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e pub, you do realize its posible to oppose immigration without forming a "white peoples" party? If your reason for oppossing immigration is economic, why wouldnt you welcome blacks, who are likely to benefit from controling immigration more than whites, seeing as more of them are in low wage occupations?
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Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
But its a good point. If you think racism is confined to redneck southerners then we're in a sorry state to actually combat it. |
Why didn't you use the chance and say that racism isn't confined to a single colour of skin/religion/political view etc ?
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Epublius Rex
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
e pub, you do realize its posible to oppose immigration without forming a "white peoples" party? If your reason for oppossing immigration is economic, why wouldnt you welcome blacks, who are likely to benefit from controling immigration more than whites, seeing as more of them are in low wage occupations? |
Oh, I whole hearted agree with you, LOM. They are in the fact the first ones being hurt by it all. The lowest rung on the ladder always gets hurt first. I am just so amazed that Democrats either wont see this or do not care. I still can't believe they are going along with Bush on this like a school girl in love. It makes me think that all of the Politicos have long since been bought off by those who stand to profit from all of this.
On the issue of the party though, I say this:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- which goes doubly so for those who speak that which is not pleasant to hear. For if one group loses it right to free speech and political organization, we all will sooner or later.
Understand my position now? I hope so, it is the basis of our laws.
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
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Originally posted by BlackCat
Why didn't you use the chance and say that racism isn't confined to a single colour of skin/religion/political view etc ? |
True. Lets all shed a tear for all the white Christian males who've been held back by racism.
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Epublius Rex
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Originally posted by Dis
I'll even add more. Black people don't want to work as maids at our hotels either. So the illegal mexicans aren't taking jobs away from black people either. It's just some people don't want to work jobs they feel are beneath them. |
Cut them off of welfare and see what they will or won't do.
The time for taxing the middle class to death is nearing an end, people. Outsroucing, offshoring and the use of H1B visas are killing the middle class.
NOw that United has bankrupted their pension funds, the proverbial snowball has been made. Now that GM has made it clear they will join them, it has gained momentum. Ford will follow suit and soon the ball will careen wildly downhill as it grows exponentially, eventually taking with it all of the Fortune 1000 corporations in the US.
The middle class in America is dead, it just hasn't been buried yet- and your communist agenda will die right along with it.
And I admit, I was one who, ten years ago, was all in favor of cheap labor being imported. But that was before offshoring and outsourcing gained so much traction. I do not think America can withstand an assault on both flanks and survive.
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True. Lets all shed a tear for all the white Christian males who've been held back by racism. |
Oh, thanks for the clarification. Racism is evil unless of course it's done by "correct" participants. Nice.
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Guyn implicitly genocidal statement, stupid as it was, was directed at folks who would join a party like this, NOT at all white people. Do you really have such a low opinion of white people that you think more than a handful would join such a party. What an anti-white bigot you are. |
No- i have a low opinion of him- reeducation camps are a communist thing. I hate all things communist. I hate anything that stand in the way of human freedom.
Go read Solzenytsin's Archipelag Gulag. No one is safe from people who espouse such activities.
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
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Originally posted by Epublius Rex
Oh, I whole hearted agree with you, LOM. They are in the fact the first ones being hurt by it all. The lowest rung on the ladder always gets hurt first. I am just so amazed that Democrats either wont see this or do not care. I still can't believe they are going along with Bush on this like a school girl in love. It makes me think that all of the Politicos have long since been bought off by those who stand to profit from all of this.
On the issue of the party though, I say this:
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- which goes doubly so for those who speak that which is not pleasant to hear. For if one group loses it right to free speech and political organization, we all will sooner or later.
Understand my position now? I hope so, it is the basis of our laws. |
i have not stated my actual position on immigration, which is nuanced. Thats cause this is NOT a thread about immigration, but about the formation of a "White peoples party". Which is obnoxious, without regard to ones beliefs on immigration, affirmative action, etc. In fact it is PARTICULARY obnoxious if you object to affirmative action on the kinds of universalist, color blind grounds, that many of us do.
as for ethnically based parties in other communities, i think you are ignoring what i said. I would object to an Irish American party say, no more than to a Hispanic party. Or a German American party. White American, however is NOT a specific cultural identity. It is simply a mark of exclusion.
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Guyn implicitly genocidal statement, stupid as it was, was directed at folks who would join a party like this, NOT at all white people.
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Moreover, it was a joke. If you're having trouble remembering what a "joke" is, Cali, may I direct you to dictionary.com?
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Dis
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Feb 2000
time: 21:37
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
i have not stated my actual position on immigration, which is nuanced. Thats cause this is NOT a thread about immigration, but about the formation of a "White peoples party". Which is obnoxious, without regard to ones beliefs on immigration, affirmative action, etc. In fact it is PARTICULARY obnoxious if you object to affirmative action on the kinds of universalist, color blind grounds, that many of us do.
as for ethnically based parties in other communities, i think you are ignoring what i said. I would object to an Irish American party say, no more than to a Hispanic party. Or a German American party. White American, however is NOT a specific cultural identity. It is simply a mark of exclusion. |
actually the main platform of the white people's party is immigration. So feel free to discuss the subject in this thread.
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
as for ethnically based parties in other communities, i think you are ignoring what i said. I would object to an Irish American party say, no more than to a Hispanic party. Or a German American party. White American, however is NOT a specific cultural identity. It is simply a mark of exclusion. |
Circular argument. There is, technically speaking, no such as thing as a "Hispanic"- Richard Nixon made the term up. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with a "white peoples" party, unless you are an anti-white bigot. Which you now appear to be.
Or do you think that the NAACP is a racist organization? I just need further clarification here. If they can exist without being called racist, so can these people.
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Epublius Rex
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Odd. I live in the US, and afaik American Blacks allow people of different races to immigrate to the US. |
Dumb, I expect better of you then that. IN 1965 when immigration law was amended to allow non-white immigration (as it had been set since the very begging- outlawing importation of slaves after 1826) White America was 87% of the population. No minority group had a say in the matter, had white America said no, then it would not have been changed.
You also know very well I was referring to the world outside of the West. You cannot (especially blacks) migrate to China, Japan, Korea, South Africa, Zimbabwe, etc and ever expect to become a citizen of those countries. They do not allow it.
I actually think our immigration should be based upon the immigration policies of the nations from which these people come from. That is the ultimate in fairness.
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Originally posted by Kidicious
People who join a party for white people are rednecks. Whites who merely sympathize with them are racists. |
By your logic then, anyone who sympathizes with the NAACP is a racist, since it is a black only organization. They kicked the Jewish founders out years ago.
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