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Global anger grows over teen executions in Iran
Gay.com U.K. and the PlanetOut Network
Monday, July 25, 2005 / 05:22 PM

SUMMARY: International human rights organizations are calling for action to be taken against Iran after officials publicly executed two gay teenagers last week.

International human rights organizations are calling for action to be taken against Iran after officials publicly executed two gay teenagers last week.

The two boys, who were identified only by their initials, were executed for having sex with each other. Homosexuality is illegal under the Sharia law, which allows execution of children as young as 9 years of age.

The teens were also charged with raping a 13-year-old boy, although the majority of news services say this charge has been trumped up by the Iranian state in a bid to avoid international criticism.

Activists believe the boys gave their "confession" after weeks of torture. They were detained and subjected to beatings by local police for up to two weeks before their death.

Now, international groups are calling for stronger action to be taken against Iran. In Tehran Saturday, children's rights activist Shirin Ebadi said that the hangings violated the terms of the International Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Ebadi, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2003, told the Associated Press that her campaign to outlaw the execution of minors had "fallen on deaf ears," but vowed that her Center for the Protection of Human Rights would step up the fight.

In the United States, the Human Rights Campaign is calling for Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to denounce the executions.

"As we have seen in recent weeks, the barbarous punishments for sexual acts in these countries run contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights," the HRC stated in a letter to Rice.

"For that reason, these acts must be condemned."

In the United Kingdom, Peter Tatchell of the London-based LGBT rights group OutRage! criticized the Labour party for trying to forge closer ties with the government of Iran.

"Britain's Labour government is pursuing friendly relations with this murderous regime, including aid and trade," Tatchell said.

"We urge the international community to treat Iran as a pariah state, break off diplomatic relations, impose trade sanctions and give practical support to the democratic and left opposition inside Iran."

Tatchell also said the country had become a "prison," with the ultraconservative state blocking any movement toward a more liberal, democratic society.

Elsewhere, activists are calling for their governments to publicly criticize the Iranian-sanctioned executions.

In Sweden, the Swedish Federation for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Rights (RFSL) has called on the government to update its asylum policy so that lesbian and gay people are not deported back to Iran.

"I think the Swedish government is extremely cynical when it sends gays and lesbians back to Iran," Soren Andersson told the AFP news agency.

"They keep looking for excuses to send them back there, but it is dangerous for homosexuals in Iran," he added.

However, Iran is standing firm on its decision to kill the two young men. Last week, ultraconservative deputy Ali Asgari stated that the punishment "served them right."


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U.K.: Gay Iranian denied asylum kills self
Ben Townley, Gay.com U.K.
Wednesday, April 20, 2005 / 05:51 PM

SUMMARY: A gay man who was fleeing persecution in Iran has committed suicide after fearing he would be forcibly removed from the United Kingdom, according to an inquest held on Tuesday.

A gay man who was fleeing persecution in Iran has committed suicide after fearing he would be forcibly removed from the United Kingdom, according to an inquest held on Tuesday.

Hussein Nasseri was found dead in his car in Eastbourne last June after shooting himself between the eyes with an air rifle. A coroner ruled Tuesday that nobody else was involved in the killing.

He had been refused asylum for the second time by the Home Office, despite his telling the asylum body that he would be killed if he returned to his home country.

Homosexuality is illegal in Iran and is punishable by death.

According to press reports, Nasseri had already been imprisoned in the city of Tehran because of his sexuality, but had managed to escape. He had hoped that Britain would help him find a safer home.

His friend Nader Ashkani, also from Iran, told the BBC that Nasseri had been upset at the Home Office ruling and feared deportation.

"I saw him two weeks before he died," he said. "He was very upset. He said he wanted to kill himself. He said he had bought a gun to kill himself."

This is the second high-profile case of a gay asylum-seeker committing suicide.

Last year Israfil Shiri, who was also Iranian, set himself on fire last year in protest at being deported by the Home Office. He reportedly feared if he returned he would be subjected to public execution because of his sexuality.

Gay activist group Outrage, which has campaigned for more recognition for gay people seeking asylum, said the two incidents are examples of why the Home Office needs to update its stance on gay asylum-seekers.

"It is absolutely appalling that the Home Office has no specific guidelines to deal with LGBT issues in asylum," campaigner Brett Lock told Gay.com U.K. on Wednesday. "The notion that gay people can simply return to their home countries and 'be discreet' -- as is often requested -- is nothing short of homophobic."

"No British citizen could be expected to live under the same conditions," he added.


-When the bloody hell are we going to invade these barbaric bastards! They execute Children as young as 9..... repeat 9.... and they tortured these kids until they CONFESSED....

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lets also invade UK to get them to accept more asylum seekers.

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Let's invade Thorn's butt for sexual satisfaction! NOW!½

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Invading is a little extreme, I think US has plans for the eventull annexation of the UK probably ayways....

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Iran.
Greece.
Similar archaic, barbaric nations.

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Let's invade Thorn's butt for sexual satisfaction! NOW!½




Hmmm... we will see how long this thread lasts... and I have the same question about some of the posters...

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So what's the matter about this execution? How is it worse than any other execution? Just for the record: that bloke is 16, old enough to know he shouldn't molest a 13 year old, so "underage" claims don't count.

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yeah I think the test got me all wrong, I'm clearly shock jock, not cutting edge.. would you ever expect david letterman to say that? No you wouldn't.

And for the record, DP is wrong IMO no matter what. Changes nothing. And since I'm having a big red target on my back for being honest, well, let's not invade then because it might offend people.

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Hey in Turkey they killed a 14 year old girl because she was raped!

But Turkey has no oil.
Yes forgive me.
Go on.

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was it a court decision?

didn't think so.


On topic: yeah, pretty disgusting. But that's pretty much the norm in the ME. in Egypt, it's jail and floggings - not much better.

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So who writes the Sharia law, the Texas State Legislature??

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So what's the matter about this execution? How is it worse than any other execution? Just for the record: that bloke is 16, old enough to know he shouldn't molest a 13 year old, so "underage" claims don't count.


so the mullahs think 13 is underage? What do the mullahs think of their friends in Hamas and Islamic Jihad using kids that age as suicide bombers? Those kids are definitely f**ked, you could say.

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Yeah those are f*cked. So the mullahs don't want their kids to be f*cked, right?

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was it a court decision?

didn't think so.


No it was culture.

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Yeah those are f*cked. So the mullahs don't want their kids to be f*cked, right?


but they seem ok with sending money and weapons to folks who like to f**k palestinian kids by recruiting them to be suicide bombers.

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Wouldn't happen if there was no occupation.

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"Wouldn't happen if there was no occupation."

Perhaps, and the 13 year old Iranian boys might not mess with the 16 year old Iranian gays if there were better conditions in Iran. But the regime doesnt consider that an excuse for the 16 year olds who molested the 13 year olds. So its not an excuse for the mullahs who are helping to have 13 year olds turned into suicide bombers.

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Lotm, that might be consistent in their values. I don't care if it is, though, I'd rather see a general decline of the DP than this mourning about DP for gays.

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Wait a minute, does Iran apply the Sharia law as a whole? I thought Saudi Arabia was the only country so extreme. Of course it won't matter since Iran's jurisdictiona lsystem will be intransparent anyway, but I'd like to know their official stance on the matter.

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Hey LOTM if the US wasn't so pron on installing their own puppet leader in IRAN to controll the oil maybe there wouldn't even be an islamic revolution. They're the Persians you know. Historical people.

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Lotm, that might be consistent in their values. I don't care if it is, though, I'd rather see a general decline of the DP than this mourning about DP for gays.


I dont think this is quite equivalent to the DP for murder. I think its an expression of something else.

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Hey LOTM if the US wasn't so pron on installing their own puppet leader in IRAN to controll the oil maybe there wouldn't even be an islamic revolution. They're the Persians you know. Historical people.




It's Bush's fault!

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I don't know. I think that there was bound to be an Islamic revolution anyway. In fact Saudi Arabia had one in the 1920s, when a group of Wahabiists got upset over the importation of radio and automobiles. They didn't count on the enormous advantage that armored cars, planes, and automatic weapons gave the king's forces over their 19th century single shot rifles. Had they been as sophisticated in the art of guerilla warfare as the Islamicists of today the modern history of the middle east might have been quite different. The fact is that there have been anti-modern factions among middle eastern muslims since the beginning of the 19th century when the sultan of the Ottomaqns attempted to modernize his army.

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Paiktis, even if the US supported the Shah, the way he treated his people was still his own business.

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No my 8 bathroom kuci kuci, Bush probably had his nose up in cocaine at that time.


Doctor,
there are fractions and tendecncies of all sorts in all sorts of countries. Even in developped "western" european countries there are some screwed up tendencies, let me tell you. However, if you want something to succeed you're bound to rally under one single banner that's powerful enough to unite people against something else. Islam maybe that "something" in muslim countries.

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I successfully resisted the urge to troll this thread. I should get an award for that.

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No my 8 bathroom kuci kuci, Bush probably had his nose up in cocaine at that time.


Doctor,
there are fractions and tendecncies of all sorts in all sorts of countries. Even in developped "western" european countries there are some screwed up tendencies, let me tell you. However, if you want something to succeed you're bound to rally under one single banner that's powerful enough to unite people against something else. Islam maybe that "something" in muslim countries.


So bascially you're agreeing with me?

I think that there may be some people who join in on the jihad because it functions as a focus for their frustrations with the current state of international affairs, i.e., western intrusion into middle eastern politics. For a very large portion of these folks however the religious aspect is dominant.

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I agree with what you wrote in your last post, yes. 100%.

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No my 8 bathroom kuci kuci, Bush probably had his nose up in cocaine at that time.


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dude, I think you're the one snorting a line of coke right now...

 
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