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Hell, the guy couldn't even beat out Joey Harrington... what does that say about him .


McMahon is a very gifted athlete who can run, has a great arm and is a leader. I think that Qb's know QB's and I have heard Bradshaw, Theismann and Simms all say McMahon was better than Joey, Theismann even said "Mike got caught up in the politics in Detroit."

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McMahon is a very gifted athlete who can run, has a great arm and is a leader. I think that Qb's know QB's and I have heard Bradshaw, Theismann and Simms all say McMahon was better than Joey, Theismann even said "Mike got caught up in the politics in Detroit."


Are you his brother by any chance? McMahon got caught up in nothing. He just wasn't good enough. He has a decent arm and decent running, but a leader? Yeah, those 1-10 Rutgers teams showed great leadership.

As for Bradshaw, Theismann, and Simms, I'd like to see some cites for that. Also you aren't talking about the smartest of announcers/pundits there.

Hell, if he was so good, why does he continue to be a backup. Some team (like San Fran) would have snapped him up by now if he was really that good.

I mean Hell, the man has a career passer rating of 55.0!

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McMahon lost every game he started in Detroit.

If McNabb goes down, and you're forced to rely on McMahon, the Eagles are hosed.

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Detroit has a knack for turning promising QB's into mediocre ones. Peete, Ware, Mitchell, etc.. And currently Hasselback. Reid was Favre's QB coach in GB. I'm sure McMahon will be better off with a team that knows how to get the most out of their QB's.

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Andre Ware?!




Oh man... I am so torn now. See, I like the Eagles (apart from T.O.), and I really like McNabb. But part of me wants to see him go down and watch Philly plummet to last place under the leadership of McMahon.

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Hasselback? Both Hasselbeck's in the league never played for Detroit.

As for Rodney Peete and Andre Ware... LOL! You do realize that Peete only played for Detroit for 5 years and with stints with the Eagles and Panthers (when he got some playing time) was crap? In fact, he's only had two seasons with more TDs than INTs where he has thrown at least 100 times. One was with Detroit. The other was with Carolina, where he managed to beat it by one.

Andre Ware was worse. The epitome of a system QB in college (thank you Houston!). He couldn't do anything other than make 3rd string behind a pitiful Rodney Peete and average Eric Kramer.

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don't be dissing Harrington . He's my backup QB.

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Eagle's RB Correll Buckhalter done for the season. I feel so bad for this guy. 3rd season-ending injury in the past 4 years. This one may be career-ending.. He worked so hard to get back this year...

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They are relying on Kyle Orton and Benson will have missed pretty much all of training camp. Poor Orton will be blitzed to death.

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BENSON IS SIGNED

although I really don't think its that big a deal

Orton will be all right

Bears O-line is good

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hey what does the hurricane mean for the Saints?

I hear the Superdome is damaged...

will they postpone the season?

or will it be repaired in time?

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Got spare money?

They could always find somewhere else to play if they had to.

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I'd rather see Orton in there learning. He will make mistakes, and will be blitzed until he figures it out. But the same was happening to Hutch, and he looked like deer caught in headlights. He was the best prepared to take over, and it was obvious that he didn't get it.
Against a weak Indy defense, he looked awful. And the Buffalo good D just killed him.

At least now we will see what we got with Orton, and he will get some experience. I'm sick of seeing the team put on hold for another year while we wait to see if Rex will be any good and whether he can stay healthy next year.

At least now... we will learn something instead of just sitting and waiting for next year.

And Benson is a moron. All he did was hurt himself. I hope Thomas has a great year and CB spends most of his time on the bench...

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I predict that Lovie Smith will return to the Rams.

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Quotes from the 'Phins preseason game against the Bucs this past weekend:


- Miami's quarterback job remained unclaimed. Frerotte played the first 2 1/2 quarters and completed only nine of 25 attempts for 103 yards, while A.J. Feeley came off the bench to lead the Dolphins to 10 points.

- “It's something that we need to continue to evaluate,'' Saban said. “It has seemed the entire preseason, whichever quarterback played second has played best.''


Based on this, I predict the 'Phins punter will go to the Pro Bowl this year, and that Miami will have another high draft choice next spring.....


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Eagles DT Corey Simon was released..

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And Benson is a moron. All he did was hurt himself. I hope Thomas has a great year and CB spends most of his time on the bench...

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I agree, but it will be nice to have a little depth at such a key position.

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"we really like Adrian Peterson" -Dick Jauron

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"we really like Adrian Peterson" -Dick Jauron


Frankly, I never thought much of ANYTHING Dick Jauron said

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I love hearing his sound clips on the Score...

about this whole Benson thing...

I just wanna know WTF was the whole problem?

I mean, the money he signed for seemed like exactly what they were offering the whole time. Why the holdout?

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Apperantly from some people close to him, he was insulted by the intial offer and said that the bears weren't showing him enough respect. And if they had offered the same numbers they just offered him at the beginning, he would have signed.

But don't worry, he's very mature for his age.

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Let's see... throwing millions of dollars, in the range between what was offered to the person picked before him and then after him wasn't showing respect...

Yeah... real mature... HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!

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what a douche...

hopefully, he'll end up working the graveyard shift at some factory in Ohio with Curtis Enis

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from Tribune reporter David Haugh...

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And Benson is a moron. All he did was hurt himself. I hope Thomas has a great year and CB spends most of his time on the bench...

Bit like Philip Rivers really, but things should change in the future with the new regulations.

However, it also hurts the Bears, in terms of potential trade value or a case of a lost first-round pick (but that's more rule than exception in Chicago, I suppose).

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I'm sure if he held out the year that he would be just as successful as the last person forced to sit out a year.

Broncos cut ties with ex-Ohio State RB, their 3rd-round pick

From Tribune news services
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Maurice Clarett's gamble for the big dollars in the NFL failed for a second time. The Denver Broncos informed Clarett on Sunday that he is being released, ESPN.com reported.

Mike Shanahan surprised the league by using a third-round draft choice on the former Ohio State running back. The Broncos coach thought he had the cutback style of running that fit in one of the league's best running systems.

As it turned out, Shanahan made a mistake and didn't want to waste time admitting it. With Tuesday's deadline for cutting the roster to 65 looming, Clarett, who never made the field in three exhibition games, was let go.

Clarett first gambled that he could beat the NFL in court after applying despite not being three years out of high school. The case failed, so Clarett had to wait until the 2005 season to get his chance to turn pro.

Clarett's second gamble was on his contract. He felt he deserved a contract similar to what a first-round choice would receive and signed an incentive-laden, four-year deal with no signing bonus.

The Broncos were willing to give him a $410,000 bonus, but Clarett agreed to only a $230,000 base salary. He had the chance to make $7 million.

By releasing him, Denver won't take any cap hit. It also appears unlikely that the Broncos will sign him to their practice squad.

Mike Anderson is expected to start at halfback with Tatum Bell as his backup. Shanahan also likes what he sees from former Giant Ron Dayne.

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good...

Maurice Clarett is also a douche

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However, it also hurts the Bears, in terms of potential trade value or a case of a lost first-round pick (but that's more rule than exception in Chicago, I suppose).


It also hurt the Bears in terms of this year schedule. We open on the easy part of the schedule. If he had been in camp, and had been successful, he might have helped the Bears get off to a good start. Now, by the time he is ready to start (assuming he as good as he thinks he is) the season might be over.

 
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