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The preseason is officially ON! Pretty soon we'll be seeing exhibition games!

Well, the Eagles training camp got off to a lousy start. Starting Left DE Jerome McDougle was shot and badly wounded yesterday by 3 youths in a carjacking in Miami.

And of course, there's that whole TO contract thing which doesnt look like it will get resolved soon.. He'll be in camp but "won't be happy"..

What are the major position battles to be fought in your team's training camp?

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QB: Joey Harrington and Jeff Garcia.

Joey will start, but this will be his last chance. Three top-10 WRs and one of the best (or perhaps the best) young RBs in the league? The offense must perform.

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The preseason is officially ON! Pretty soon we'll be seeing exhibition games!


Yeah, and did you notice that the first game (the Hall of Fame Game) is between the two teams that Wanstadt destroyed (Chicago and Miami)!

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What are the major position battles to be fought in your team's training camp?


Just about every position is wide open on the 'Phins this year.
What I do like is Saban's approach to the whole Ricky Williams fiasco: taking charge, pushing it to the side, talking about the team. Hopefully this will fade away as The Story in Miami......

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QB: Joey Harrington and Jeff Garcia.

Joey will start, but this will be his last chance. Three top-10 WRs and one of the best (or perhaps the best) young RBs in the league? The offense must perform.


Wanna take bets on how many games Rogers makes it into the season before he is out on another injury?

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QB JP Losman taking over the offense of the Bills is a major question mark. They got two veterans to back him up (Kelly Holcomb and Shayne matthews) but that's just what they are: backups.
The tight-end situation is also worrying with both TE getting knee injuries in the same game last year and then their 3rd round pick also gets a knee injury earlier this spring.
Defense should be really good again, though.

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Wanna take bets on how many games Rogers makes it into the season before he is out on another injury?


Whatever the line is, I'll take the under.

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Just about every position is wide open on the 'Phins this year.
What I do like is Saban's approach to the whole Ricky Williams fiasco: taking charge, pushing it to the side, talking about the team. Hopefully this will fade away as The Story in Miami......

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Saban should do well in Miami. I'm a bit biased but I think the best bet for the Phins is to try and deal Ricky ASAP. Ronnie Brown should be more than capable of carrying the load, plus is not much of a risk at all to bring the kind of baggage to the table that Ricky does. Standard disclaimer applies about predicting how a rookie transitions into the league, but I'm fairly confident Ronnie will be fine.

Btw, the video of Saban making Manuel Wright cry is priceless.

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Saban should do well in Miami. I'm a bit biased but I think the best bet for the Phins is to try and deal Ricky ASAP. Ronnie Brown should be more than capable of carrying the load, plus is not much of a risk at all to bring the kind of baggage to the table that Ricky does. Standard disclaimer applies about predicting how a rookie transitions into the league, but I'm fairly confident Ronnie will be fine.

Btw, the video of Saban making Manuel Wright cry is priceless.


link? I'd like to see it.

Nevermind, I found it.

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Javon Walker has decided to report to Packers camp and NOT hold out. This has got to make the Pack happy, especially since they told him unequivocally that they are not giving him a new deal.

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Whatever the line is, I'll take the under.


poor Lions...

I'll still be hoping for success, just like the start of every season. At least they are doing better every season. So we'll have to at least get 7 wins this year.

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I was puzzled by this year's draft pick, but it started to make sense to me when I made the large mental leap and imagined a healthy Charles Rogers, and all three of 'em on the field at once.

Not only will there be all those weapons on the outside, there is no way on god's green earth that defenses will put even 7 in the box, giving Jones lots of room to run.

If they manage to sign Ty Law, and avoid more than one major injury, I honestly think the Lions will go to the playoffs.

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I think the best bet for the Phins is to try and deal Ricky ASAP. Ronnie Brown should be more than capable of carrying the load, plus is not much of a risk at all to bring the kind of baggage to the table that Ricky does.


I'm of the opposite opinion. I think Saban's approach with Ricky is indicating that Saban is gonna stick with him this season, and if there is any serious interest from other teams in Brown (like a 1st paired with a 5th or 2 sixth round drafts) why Brown is gone. It makes sense from the perspective that the 'Phins can get much more for Brown than Ricky, that our salary cap can use the relief, and that Saban is looking to the future, not this season (if the 'Phins go 7-9 this season, then considering what a disaster last season was, why most of South Florida will be happy).


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The Rams

The loss of Kyle Turley at Right OT hurt us bad last year. We drafted Alex Barron for that possition and picked up a few other offensive linemen. Also Big O is in training camp this year. Bulger should have time this year, and hopefully will not get injured because of too many sacks and hits.

Steven Jackson is our starting RB this year. He averaged 5.0 yards a carry last year and broke a 49ers arm who tried to arm tackle him. He's going to be great. We were very lucky to get him in the first round last year. Faulk will play in special situations.

We also got Roland Williams back at TE, and the third recievers should be even better this year. This is Kevin Curtis' third year. We will dominate on offense unless there is a key injury and even then we should still do very well because of depth, that is unless the injury is Bulger, Holt or Big O.

We brought a lot of people in on defense. We got two new LBs. One is a big banger for the middle, and the other guy is a speedy play maker on the outside. All I can say is that hopefully this is the year that our LBs finally start to produce. We have been concentrating on that area, but our efforts have produced little fruit. The secondary was in bad shape last year because both of our excellent safeties were injured. One retired and the other is now healthy. We picked up a bunch of potential safeties and one of our WRs is attempting a position change to safety. We've had changes before on D. I can only hope for the best.

Martz has paid a lot of attention to special teams this off season. We got a new coach and we drafted a bunch of players that did well on special teams in college. I can only hope for the best there too.

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I was puzzled by this year's draft pick, but it started to make sense to me when I made the large mental leap and imagined a healthy Charles Rogers, and all three of 'em on the field at once.

Not only will there be all those weapons on the outside, there is no way on god's green earth that defenses will put even 7 in the box, giving Jones lots of room to run.

If they manage to sign Ty Law, and avoid more than one major injury, I honestly think the Lions will go to the playoffs.


Playoffs

How's the team look on defense?

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I was puzzled by this year's draft pick, but it started to make sense to me when I made the large mental leap and imagined a healthy Charles Rogers, and all three of 'em on the field at once.


It was my understanding, and I'm quoting this from a recent article, was that Mariucci was sticking with the two-receiver set, with Roy williams and Rogers as the starters. Mike Williams is still a holdout, and may not even see a lot of action the first part of the season. Apparently, Rogers put on about 20+ pounds in the offseason, and should be better prepared to withstand the rigors of a full season.

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Not with Joey at QB... Mariucci never really seemed that enthused with him from the get-go, and their season opener this year is at home against GB, a HUGE game. I'm giving Joey about two games...

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OK - Call me a Lions slacky but here's my prediction.

Lions win the division and actually win a playoff game this year.

Even Vegas has them as 5th best in the NFC

Over/Under on total wins

Philadelphia 11.5
Minnesota 9.5
Atlanta 9.5
Carolina 9.0
Detroit 8.5

They have more offensive weapons at the skill positions than any team in the league. They've made some good pickups on defense. Hopefully they don't remain stubborn and insist on playing Harrington. With Joey they go 9-7. With Garcia it's a breakout season.....

Lions 11-5
Minn 9-7
GB 6-10
Chi 6-10

Remeber the Super Bowl is in Detroit this year

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No friggen way.

9-7 or 10-6. No way they hit 11, and the only way they have a winning season is if they don't have more than one major injury: Harrington, Garcia, C. Rogers, R. Williams, M. Williams, Jones, S. Rogers, Bly, Law (if they sign him), pick any two OL.

Tall order, man. Real tall.

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I know it sounds crazy - and I am usually a pessimist when it comes to the Lions - but if you look at that roster objectively its pretty darn good.

Damien Woody was on the radio the other day and he said it had more talent the Patriot team he played on that won the Super Bowl. Of couse they inerviewers challenged him. His reponse was its one thing to have raw talent and its another to translate it on to the field.

Anyway you look at it they are stacked.

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I'd take the bet that the Lions win the division this year.

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OK - Call me a Lions slacky but here's my prediction.

Lions win the division and actually win a playoff game this year.

Even Vegas has them as 5th best in the NFC

Over/Under on total wins

Philadelphia 11.5
Minnesota 9.5
Atlanta 9.5
Carolina 9.0
Detroit 8.5

They have more offensive weapons at the skill positions than any team in the league. They've made some good pickups on defense. Hopefully they don't remain stubborn and insist on playing Harrington. With Joey they go 9-7. With Garcia it's a breakout season.....

Lions 11-5
Minn 9-7
GB 6-10
Chi 6-10

Remeber the Super Bowl is in Detroit this year



I bet you my bottom dollar that the Lions will not win the division.

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I agree. Get a wild card? Very, very possible. But win the division? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

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Man, the Lions love is a biiiit too much . I'm saying 8-8. Minnesota is winning that division boys. They added a LOT of talent to that defense and even without Moss that offense has firepower. They look poised to challenge for a first round bye.

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I'm of the opposite opinion. I think Saban's approach with Ricky is indicating that Saban is gonna stick with him this season, and if there is any serious interest from other teams in Brown (like a 1st paired with a 5th or 2 sixth round drafts) why Brown is gone. It makes sense from the perspective that the 'Phins can get much more for Brown than Ricky, that our salary cap can use the relief, and that Saban is looking to the future, not this season (if the 'Phins go 7-9 this season, then considering what a disaster last season was, why most of South Florida will be happy).


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You may be right. I know in that position, though, I'd be more inclined to deal the potential headcase.

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That's great that Vegas has Detroit as 5th in the NFC. Of course they have Minnesota higher, so even if we don't have yet another predictable catastrophe and string of injuries, we probably won't win division.

I'd be quite happy with a wildcard spot.

Hell I'd be happy if we actually did make it to 8-8.

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Bears

We really have a ... possible ... team. Not a sure bet - but there's a chance this team gels together for a playoff spot. Basically a lot of If's ... but getting back to that running game is key. Good defense, solid running (PLEASE sign, Cedric... we'll all chip in $5 and make your extra $3 million or whatever you need ... ) and a small tight playbook will make this work - if nobody big gets injured, and if Rex is back enough to do decently. Mushin is great, and Tillman is looking REALLY good at CB, one thing that was a bit of a question mark last year ...

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Man, the Lions love is a biiiit too much . I'm saying 8-8. Minnesota is winning that division boys. They added a LOT of talent to that defense and even without Moss that offense has firepower. They look poised to challenge for a first round bye.


Even though I love the Packers, you're probably right.

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There's hope, there's optimism and then there's something else.

Confidence.

As quarterback Joey Harrington, coach Steve Mariucci and vice chairman Bill Ford Jr. spoke Sunday at Lions training camp, they showed a lot of it.

"There's no reason in my mind why we shouldn't win the division," Harrington said. "I don't think anybody should be scared to say that.

"I'm tired of losing football games. There's no beating around the bush on that one. I hate losing, and I'm not going to take it anymore."

Mariucci had been vague about what he thought the Lions could or should accomplish this season. But when asked about Harrington's comments, he left no doubt the NFC North title was in his sights.

"In the recent past here, I don't know if people felt that they were confident enough to make that a realistic expectation," Mariucci said. "I think we are getting to a point where we make that as our goal and every intention.

"Everything we talk about is about beating the Packers, the Bears and the Vikings. Obviously there are other teams in the league, but if you can dominate and be on top of your division you are always in the playoff hunt. It's time for us to win that thing."

Ford liked what he saw as he surveyed the field during the morning practice.

"There's more talent on the team now," Ford said. "It's night and day versus what it was three years ago. I expect us to have a good year."

Asked what he considered good, Ford said: "Playoffs, and then from there anything can happen."

Yes, Ford allows himself to daydream about the Lions' playing in the Super Bowl at Ford Field.

"Of course I do," Ford said. "Absolutely. Ford Field in many ways to me was my dream. People told me not to do it. I got lots of advice that it would never work and that a stadium in the city was not going to ever be practical. And yet we went ahead and did it.

"To have the Super Bowl there, I'm going to love every minute of it, and of course, the one thing that would put it over the top would be to have the team in it."

The Lions won only 16 games the past four seasons. Only Houston won as few in that span -- and the expansion Texans have played only three seasons.

But the Lions' roster has changed dramatically.

Ford said you couldn't help but think about the 1991 team -- the only Lions to win a playoff game since the '57 team won the NFL championship.

"I like the fact that we have depth at virtually every position," Ford said. "I like the fact that our best players typically are ascending players, they're not descending players. And I like the fact that even our backups are guys coming into their prime, as opposed to prior years when we had guys who were on their last year. And I think that all of that really should make us a much better team."

Every team is positive at training camp every year, but ...

"This is different," Ford said. "There's some battles for positions. Ultimately you're going to see good football players on the street. That's a luxury we have not had in at least the last three years."

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I think the Lions have a lot more talent than Minnesota. I don't see why they couldn't win. One of these years they're going to do something.

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You think the Lions have a lot more talent than Minnesota? In WR and RB, but where else? In the QB position, which is probably the most important position in the NFL today, Minny has a HELL of a talent gap on Detriot's signal caller. And Minny has upgraded their defense exponentially.

They look scary.

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The Lions play the AFC North and the NFC South this season. Some serious defensive quality there. They face the Bucs and the Steelers away, but the Ravens, the Falcons and the Panthers at home.

The Lions did manage to win some road games last season improving their away record over the last four years to: 3-29.

With this tough sked, 4-4 at home and 3-5 away is already pretty good.

 
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