03-08-2005 02:20									#1
	Historical hypothetical: 7 Dec 1941, Japan attacks, George W Bush is President Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Lets track the great man through WWII as a US wartime leader

Dubya is a man of action so the first thing he would have done I think would have been the same as Roosevelt - address congress in emergency session, call the attack on Pearl Harbor a day that will live in infamy or something similar, and declare war on China

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	03-08-2005 02:23									#2
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*claps*

	03-08-2005 02:27									#3
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In such a situation, the Japanese wouldn't get much blame, at least not from the left. It'd all go to Pres. Bush.

	03-08-2005 02:27									#4
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Hey Horsie, how come I'm not on your buddy list Me feels left out..... as usual.

	03-08-2005 02:33									#5
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We'd attack Japan, but then we'd invade China, since we were at war with the yellow horde.

	03-08-2005 02:41									#6
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Bush makes Axis of evil speech - gets Axis wrong, names Soviet Union as enemy, hails fascist Italy as glorious ally. Soviet Union breaks off diplomatic relations, Bush triggers disasterous 3 cornered war in Europe with US on Britain's side in the West and Germany's side in the East

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	03-08-2005 02:43									#7
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when we invaded French North Africa, instead of saying its strategically necessary, for political and geographical reasons, FDR would discuss the dangers from the (already sunk) French Fleet. The landing on North Africa would be done with too few troops, and the relations with Darlan and the Gaullists would be bungled. When it proved that there no longer was a French fleet to worry about, FDR would talk about the need to spread democracy everywhere in north african and europe, and talk about those who died at Pearl Harbor. His opponents would point out that Vichy had nothing to do with the attack on Pearl, and that our concern for democracy was hypocritical, since we were allied to the USSR. They would say we had invaded North Africa for the phosphates, and suggest that we should have focused on organic farming instead of invading. Many would call for us to withdraw from North Africa, and let the local French settle their own affairs (the local non-French would be ignored by the opponents, although FDR would make a big deal about empowering them)

Meanwhile we would somehow quickly overthrow the govt of Japan, with assistance from local Japanese anti militarists Japanese militarists would continue to harass the new govt from bases in - er, i dunno? what country is to Japan as Pakistan is to Afghanistan? Well whatever.

	03-08-2005 02:44									#8
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USA joins Germany and Italy lightheartedly in their crusade against anything inferior. France and Britain finally see their earlier error, Rooskie and yellow hordes are now doomed. Of course Japan ceases to be Axis power.

	03-08-2005 02:45									#9
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LOTM

	03-08-2005 03:04									#10
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1942. War against China not going well because of Japanese occupation of the most of the Pacific. Those pesky Japanese won't let the US navy sail through to attack China. Bush confused, decides he needs to be more friendly to Japan.

Bush needs a success to keep the US public on side. Whips up anti-Mexican sentiment, tries to link Mexico to the Chinese attack on Pearl Harbor, warns of wonder weapons in possession of the Mexican government which can be deployed in 40 minutes against Texas. Mexican government denies it has the burrito bomb.

Bush issues ultimatum to Mexico and invades, declares to Mexicans "their day of liberation is at hand". Mexicans take to the hills and start guerilla war. 10 US divisions tied down. Fighting spills over into Texas and California. Alarmed Central American states grant naval bases to Japan. Bush welcomes Japanese carrier group presence in the Carribean as help from a close ally in "the war on surprise attacks".

Bush Administration dismisses out of hand reports that it was actually the Japanese that attacked Pearl Harbor as the work of Chinese agents and disloyal American liberals.

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At what point does the swastika flag wave over the white house?

	03-08-2005 04:01									#12
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Nah, the US would join forces with germany and soviet when Poland was liberated and confront the evil Kingdom of Britain. The French - who the hell cares about the french ???

	03-08-2005 04:39									#13
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LoTM - that one is good, skewers everyone.

	03-08-2005 05:34									#14
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1941-1945 Australian forces dutifully follow the orders of their British masters and assist American forces in every aspect of their glorious crusade against China.

	03-08-2005 05:37									#15
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Is AH trying to make himself look as idiotic as Bush looks to him?? The comparison is assinine. On the other hand, something like this with the Euroweenies instead of Dumocrats would be apt.

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	03-08-2005 05:45									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Is AH trying to make himself look as idiotic as Bush looks to him?? The comparison is assinine.

Oh come on... why the personal attack... this was meant as fun, and people are rolling with. While I love the picture, your comments are out of line...

Stick to the fun... and don't attack the posters...

	03-08-2005 05:47									#17
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Shame on you Straybow - this is an official bushbashing thread so it's quite inappropriate of you to claim that Dem's would make a disaster.



Edit : dammit, Ming of all beat me on this

	03-08-2005 05:53									#18
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That is a hilarious picture Straybow!

	03-08-2005 06:15									#19
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Ming, I just found the comparisons... less than apt. LoTM did the best job so far.

And there are plenty more pics at the website. (I'm attaching instead of img-ing 'cuz I don't think they want linked pics eating their bandwidth.)

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	03-08-2005 06:33									#20
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If GWB were president, there wouldn't be a Peal Harbour. He would have launched a pre-emptive, uh, defense, against Japan first.

	03-08-2005 06:39									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger If GWB were president, there wouldn't be a Peal Harbour. He would have launched a pre-emptive, uh, defense, against Japan first.

I'd never expect you to complement his intelligence so much

	03-08-2005 06:39									#22
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We would have defeated Germany in 1940.

We let Japan join us on our Western powers crusade against Russia in 1941.

	03-08-2005 06:43									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger If GWB were president, there wouldn't be a Peal Harbour. He would have launched a pre-emptive, uh, defense, against Japan first.

Yeah, why waste time waiting on that a theoretical enemy may attack you

* theories is that japan actually did make an attack on US, but don't trust them !

	03-08-2005 06:43									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger If GWB were president, there wouldn't be a Peal Harbour. He would have launched a pre-emptive, uh, defense, against Japan first.

You misspelled "Spain".

	03-08-2005 07:52									#25
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Britain alarmed by American confusion sends delegation to Washington to explain Russia is their ally. Dubya says that's good, the USA will ally with Russia. He says if the USA and Britain ally with Russia they should be able to defeat the Soviet Union. Suggests asking the Germans to join in. British tell Dubya the Germans are already there. Dubya commends German foresight.

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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Britain alarmed by American confusion sends delegation to Washington to explain Russia is their ally. Dubya says that's good, the USA will ally with Russia. He says if the USA and Britain ally with Russia they should be able to defeat the Soviet Union. Suggests asking the Germans to join in. British tell Dubya the Germans are already there. Dubya commends German foresight.

	03-08-2005 08:23									#27
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Albert Einstein writes to Dubya warning that the atomic bomb is a possibility. Dubya writes back thanking Einstein for this letter but says he personally thinks it will never work. Dubya writes he's also heard the Germans might be developing such a weapon and to save US tax payers he's had a nifty idea and thinks the US should wait and see how the Germans go with it. Asks Einstein not to tell the English about atomic weapons because they can't be trusted and don't even worry about the Soviet Union.

Also points out to Einstein in a postscript that he has mispelt "nucular".

	03-08-2005 08:30									#28
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"Today's" Democrats and "lefties," fully supported the invasion of Afghanistan, which was based on MORAL PRINCIPLES, something you moronic REACTIONARIES have forgotten about.

So, WHEN NECESSARY, military force is appropriate, almost always in self-defense.

So the WW2 crap analogy doesn't work.

By the way Roosevelt was the most Progressive President ever, and matches the viewpoints of modern Progressives more than any other President in our history.

He also just happened to manage over some of the most trying times this nation has ever seen, and guided us to the greatest times of our history.

OWN3D

	03-08-2005 08:32									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Britain alarmed by American confusion sends delegation to Washington to explain Russia is their ally. Dubya says that's good, the USA will ally with Russia. He says if the USA and Britain ally with Russia they should be able to defeat the Soviet Union. Suggests asking the Germans to join in. British tell Dubya the Germans are already there. Dubya commends German foresight.