12-08-2005 03:48									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller bi is fundamentally unstable, every bi person I have known who is not a hedonist has come down on one side or another in the long term..

Did they CHOOSE one side over another or did they continue to be bi but simply fall in love with a person and maintain a monogomous relationship?

To me a person could be in this situation and still not have a settled preference as to the gender they are attracted to . .

	12-08-2005 03:48									#92
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that guys sounds like he has major issues. Even more than me (and I do have sexuality issues)

but not every guy who isn't masculine is gay. I'm afraid a lot of people think I'm gay. Because I don't have a strong masculine voice, and I don't have a strong masculine build. And I don't have masculine gestures and body movements. But it should be noted I don't talk in that "gay" type voice. not every guy guy does that voice, but many do.

but then again, maybe I am gay. I don't find men attractive. But I have no problem doing a threeway with another guy. It hasn't happened, but if the situation ever arised. Speaking of. I think I could give a guy a handjob, but that's probably as far as I'd ever go with a guy.

	12-08-2005 03:53									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller based upon your description of her, I would call her straight, but in a homosexual relationship.. or in denial JM

Denial is tough to accept since she is "out" with her relationship with all her family and friends. She actually doesn't call herself "gay" or "bi" -- all she knows is who she loves and that she is very happy.

Straight and in a homosexual relationship doesn't sound right either. It sounds as if she doesn't enjoy sex now or something while she has said basically that "sex with someone you really love is something special"

Will she hanker for some muscular man at some point? maybe . . . but how is that much different from the hetero man hankering after the youger or bigger boobed lady? I think everyone is attracted to other people from time to time

	12-08-2005 03:55									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Did they CHOOSE one side over another or did they continue to be bi but simply fall in love with a person and maintain a monogomous relationship? To me a person could be in this situation and still not have a settled preference as to the gender they are attracted to . .

I'm bisexual and I tell you what it isn't easy.... though I prefer guys, its more like 60 percent towards guys and 40 percent towards girls... although I have never had an emotional connection to girl, so I don't see the point in me being attracted to them in the least.... I'd rather be one or the other but that isn't happening.

	12-08-2005 03:55									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Did they CHOOSE one side over another or did they continue to be bi but simply fall in love with a person and maintain a monogomous relationship? To me a person could be in this situation and still not have a settled preference as to the gender they are attracted to . .

no, they came out as one or the other (often gay)

and the next relationship was with the same sex again...

I have never talked to a person who convinced me that they had no gender preference... (without that convincing be destroyed by them coming out straight or gay some time later)

in your example she (if you beleive her) obviously has a straight preference... but 2 and 3 (and for 3 I gave references to people that you are in love with but don't generally have sex with..) are with this other woman

if she has a straight preference then she is straight

if I had to have sex with the person I loved most, right now, I would have sex with a guy

I am attracted to women though, and would prefer to wait and find one that is right for me

JM

	12-08-2005 03:56									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Dis that guys sounds like he has major issues. Even more than me (and I do have sexuality issues) but not every guy who isn't masculine is gay. I'm afraid a lot of people think I'm gay. Because I don't have a strong masculine voice, and I don't have a strong masculine build. And I don't have masculine gestures and body movements. But it should be noted I don't talk in that "gay" type voice. not every guy guy does that voice, but many do. but then again, maybe I am gay. I don't find men attractive. But I have no problem doing a threeway with another guy. It hasn't happened, but if the situation ever arised. Speaking of. I think I could give a guy a handjob, but that's probably as far as I'd ever go with a guy.

Sounds like you are somewhat effeminate but that no way means you are gay-- Some of the more "feminine" guys I know used to get laid more than anybody . .


Simple gay test-- have you EVER felt attracted to a man? have you ever started to get aroused from seeing a naked man?

If no-- you are straight

	12-08-2005 03:56									#97
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Hmmm, Dis, it sounds like you need to experiment

	12-08-2005 03:57									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Denial is tough to accept since she is "out" with her relationship with all her family and friends. She actually doesn't call herself "gay" or "bi" -- all she knows is who she loves and that she is very happy. Straight and in a homosexual relationship doesn't sound right either. It sounds as if she doesn't enjoy sex now or something while she has said basically that "sex with someone you really love is something special" Will she hanker for some muscular man at some point? maybe . . . but how is that much different from the hetero man hankering after the youger or bigger boobed lady? I think everyone is attracted to other people from time to time

um... was my post not clear?

I said that physical aspect was different then the attraction factor (Where sexuality enters in)

she obvious has 2 and 3..

that is not enough for most/all people to be satisfied..

JM

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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Hmmm, Dis, it sounds like you need to experiment

I'm all for experimenting with 3-ways.

	12-08-2005 04:03									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Sounds like you are somewhat effeminate but that no way means you are gay-- Some of the more "feminine" guys I know used to get laid more than anybody . . Simple gay test-- have you EVER felt attracted to a man? have you ever started to get aroused from seeing a naked man? If no-- you are straight

I do get aroused by a naked man getting serviced by a woman. Even if the woman is fully clothed.

I think there's a term psycholigists use. Can't remember the term. It basically refers to imagining yourself in the role of the guy. This is why I prefer circumsized penises in porn.

	12-08-2005 04:05									#101
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I dunno if someone already said this - a lot of men/boys engage in homosexual behavior yet insist they are not gay.

That's why in sex education field we have a new acyronym MSM - Men who have Sex with other Men.

	12-08-2005 04:16									#102
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	12-08-2005 05:48									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus I dunno if someone already said this - a lot of men/boys engage in homosexual behavior yet insist they are not gay. That's why in sex education field we have a new acyronym MSM - Men who have Sex with other Men.

Yeah, those people are called gay.

	12-08-2005 05:54									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Dis I do get aroused by a naked man getting serviced by a woman. Even if the woman is fully clothed. I think there's a term psycholigists use. Can't remember the term. It basically refers to imagining yourself in the role of the guy. This is why I prefer circumsized penises in porn.

Yes...it could be that, or it could be something more. Have you ever watched a gay porn Dis?

	12-08-2005 07:30									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus I dunno if someone already said this - a lot of men/boys engage in homosexual behavior yet insist they are not gay. That's why in sex education field we have a new acyronym MSM - Men who have Sex with other Men.

The Sex Education Field

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	12-08-2005 07:34									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Since when is M E A T censored?

	12-08-2005 10:53									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos I think I would beat the **** out of him for doing that in a public gym, gay or not.

That's not an acceptable response in civilized society. You let the police handle the situation. Of course, with your masculinaty threatened, you feel a show of violence is necessary to demonstrate your heterosexuality, lest anyone think you are gay or a sissy.

I doubt you would be so violent if a hot chick sat down next to you and began playing with herself.

	12-08-2005 11:09									#108
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's not an acceptable response in civilized society. You let the police handle the situation. Of course, with your masculinaty threatened, you feel a show of violence is necessary to demonstrate your heterosexuality, lest anyone think you are gay or a sissy. I doubt you would be so violent if a hot chick sat down next to you and began playing with herself.

SERIOUSLY

I have had similar incidents like the one Asher described, it happens alot in gyms, guys go there crusing for other guys. One time I told this girl I was seeing and she was like, "did you kick his ****ing ass???" I was like, "damn I told him I wasn't interested and he left me alone, end of story."

She was all upset that I didn't beat him up. I was never threatened at the time and the dude was just trying to get his groove on.

Needless to say she was out of my life soon after that.

	12-08-2005 11:13									#109
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There's been an explosion in homosexual behaviour since they stopped allowing us to put their heads down toilets at school.

The moral fabric of America is tearing as we speak...

	12-08-2005 11:19									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker SERIOUSLY I have had similar incidents like the one Asher described, it happens alot in gyms, guys go there crusing for other guys. One time I told this girl I was seeing and she was like, "did you kick his ****ing ass???" I was like, "damn I told him I wasn't interested and he left me alone, end of story." She was all upset that I didn't beat him up. I was never threatened at the time and the dude was just trying to get his groove on. Needless to say she was out of my life soon after that.

You should have smacked her around and reminded her that when you want her opinion you'll give it for her.
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	12-08-2005 11:44									#111
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quote: That's not an acceptable response in civilized society. You let the police handle the situation. Of course, with your masculinaty threatened, you feel a show of violence is necessary to demonstrate your heterosexuality, lest anyone think you are gay or a sissy.

Women hit men who grope them or do stuff like that.

quote: I doubt you would be so violent if a hot chick sat down next to you and began playing with herself.

I'd violently ravish her.

	12-08-2005 14:56									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker SERIOUSLY I have had similar incidents like the one Asher described, it happens alot in gyms, guys go there crusing for other guys. One time I told this girl I was seeing and she was like, "did you kick his ****ing ass???" I was like, "damn I told him I wasn't interested and he left me alone, end of story." She was all upset that I didn't beat him up. I was never threatened at the time and the dude was just trying to get his groove on. Needless to say she was out of my life soon after that.

Yeah, why the need for violence - that would worry me too...I'd probably find it rather uncomfortable but I'd find absolutely no reason to whack the person...

	12-08-2005 15:06									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon There's been an explosion in homosexual behaviour since they stopped allowing us to put their heads down toilets at school.

Actually I thought it was since WE started breaking THEIR jaws when they tried to do so.

	12-08-2005 15:13									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Simple gay test-- have you EVER felt attracted to a man? have you ever started to get aroused from seeing a naked man? If no-- you are straight

That sounds more like a simple straight test.

	12-08-2005 15:15									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Yeah, those people are called gay.

So homosexuality is like blackness then, one tiny bit of homosexuality makes a person gay? Both concepts seem bigoted to me.

	12-08-2005 15:18									#116
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The desire to have sex with a man is generally the giveaway

	12-08-2005 15:20									#117
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* DRoseDARs waits for someone to discuss Peter Griffin's black ancestor...

	12-08-2005 15:26									#118
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs * DRoseDARs waits for someone to discuss Peter Griffin's black ancestor...

That was an amusing episode.

	12-08-2005 15:32									#119
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"Holy crap, I'm black!" -- Peter Griffin

	12-08-2005 15:48									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander So homosexuality is like blackness then, one tiny bit of homosexuality makes a person gay? Both concepts seem bigoted to me.

Usually drunk and suddenly able to remember old sports programmes or football matches the morning after.


Or Italian...