12-08-2005 21:31									#1
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V. Soma found this review all about how "great people" will work in CivIV.

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	12-08-2005 22:42									#2
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this seems like Firaxis put alot of work into something that before, atleast to me, seemed insignifficant.

I think many of us will find strategies revolving around aquiring many of these people.

	12-08-2005 23:30									#3
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It seems like these great people do give new depts to the game. you have to make choises, will I either have all my citizen work the tiles, or will I save some to work for great people points? That does have concequences on your entire strategy. it's not just an isoluted thing that doesn't influence the other parts of the game.

	13-08-2005 00:25									#4
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quote: ... The Firaxis team has been playing Civ IV for over two years now, and we're all really happy with the new level of depth the Great People feature brings to the game. ...

...over two years now...?
Bastards!

	13-08-2005 00:30									#5
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Did we know about Stonehenge before?

	13-08-2005 00:33									#6
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Yes. Dreary circular affair, on Salisbury Plain, badly in need of some touch-ups.

	13-08-2005 00:38									#7
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	13-08-2005 01:51									#9
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Prediction: A 2x2 ICS or messy 1x1 ICS with terraforming emphasising nutrients to enable 50/50 worker/specialist bases that double up as Great Leader farms.

I'm so going to save this post and quote it come 6 months when I'm proved right.

	13-08-2005 02:18									#10
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Golden Ages all the way!
(In SMAC, at least)

	13-08-2005 02:41									#11
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Sounds like a very good addition. Seems that they are going to be pretty strategic of a choice, in two ways - one is how you produce them, and second is how to use them. Use a Great Merchant for getting a heap of money, discovering a technology, or keep him until you get another person for a Golden Age? Choices are what make a strategy game!

	13-08-2005 02:47									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro Prediction: A 2x2 ICS or messy 1x1 ICS with terraforming emphasising nutrients to enable 50/50 worker/specialist bases that double up as Great Leader farms. I'm so going to save this post and quote it come 6 months when I'm proved right.

Well, if Firaxis team really prove to be unable to balance it after a couple of years, then they deserve to be hit on the head with a "very laaaarge" hammer (not the substitute of shield for production level, but the real tool of a worker )

But I feel a little more positive.

	13-08-2005 02:53									#13
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I'm so going to quote this post 6 months later when it's proven that ICS doesn't work in Civ4 .

	13-08-2005 03:14									#14
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I'm so going to be relieved if ICS doesn't work in cIV.

	13-08-2005 03:25									#15
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:stupid:

	13-08-2005 04:04									#16
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Thanks for the link 1889.

	13-08-2005 04:29									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Yes. Dreary circular affair, on Salisbury Plain, badly in need of some touch-ups.

	13-08-2005 04:35									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Solver . . . or keep him until you get another person for a Golden Age? . . .

That should be people if go for more GAs

quote: Finally, all Great People can be used to trigger extra golden ages for your Civilization, with each subsequent golden age requiring more Great People.

	13-08-2005 08:37									#19
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another great concept of great pepole:

"they are represented by a unit that is only visible to the player"

so they cant be a target of hostilities?....me likey

	13-08-2005 09:25									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex another great concept of great pepole: "they are represented by a unit that is only visible to the player" so they cant be a target of hostilities?....me likey

Me too

	13-08-2005 12:21									#21
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you can't send out assassins? shoot down yamamoto's plane? The original muslim assassins? I can't bungle an attempt to kill Castro as the Dulles brothers?

	13-08-2005 14:09									#22
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ICS will always work in civ games.
Russia will always be stronger then Luxembourg.

The question is if ICS will be the one and only way to win the game. Or if someone with a large empire still can screw up and be behind in the tech tree.

But normally a person with a large empire should be in advantage to someone with a smaller empire.

	13-08-2005 14:28									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro Prediction: A 2x2 ICS or messy 1x1 ICS with terraforming emphasising nutrients to enable 50/50 worker/specialist bases that double up as Great Leader farms. I'm so going to save this post and quote it come 6 months when I'm proved right.

What if you're not right? (Wondering about the chances of getting you to eat a piece of the box or something? Hey, it worked for Yin!) Just how confident are you in this assertion?


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	13-08-2005 16:22									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Me too

Thirded.

	13-08-2005 17:17									#25
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I like these great people already

quote: originally posted by ICGames In addition, having cities that have converted to your state religion can give you monetary and happiness bonuses. You can also get some line of sight benefits, and provide yet another interesting decision in a game already filled with interesting decisions.

Wasn't this idea scrapped? Or did they add it again?

	13-08-2005 18:00									#26
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It was, but the quote seems to suggest a compromise, don't it? It says some line of sight bonus after all.

	13-08-2005 18:10									#27
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At which point was it scrapped and why?

	13-08-2005 18:18									#28
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Russia will always be stronger then Luxembourg.

Yeah, Russia is huge territory where half of it is in a horrible state, Luxembourg is a small and efficient territory with a good overall level .

	13-08-2005 18:39									#29
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quote: Originally posted by alva At which point was it scrapped and why?

I don't remember right now, but I think the scrapping was mentioned early this summer. I think it was because it was too unbalancing. It was said that it could come back though.

	13-08-2005 18:58									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I don't remember right now, but I think the scrapping was mentioned early this summer. I think it was because it was too unbalancing. It was said that it could come back though.

Firaxis has been playing the game for 2 years, so I guess they know best what will keep the game ballanced, but I love this idea. I really want some way of gathering intelligence on other nations. I have always wished the demographics screen provided the demographics for all nations.