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Bosh is offline Bosh
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I love Korean labor protestors. They could show American labor a thing or two.

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Watch some of the linked videos, especially fire and bongnine...

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fighting for your rights

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If only they were communists.

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Sheesh, that is some protest. I think the BA people at the moment should do something like that to that damned catering company

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cathartic, yes, but did it get them raises, better working condictions, a more secure pension, etc?

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It got them a democracy ten years ago.

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Holy smokes.

I imagine a lot of them have a bright future in Korean politics...

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Keep in mind that all the riot cops are drafted kids getting paid a whoooooooooooooooooooole lot less money than any of the protestors. Poor kids

But korean labor unions have managed to push the country towards five-day workweeks over the last couple years.

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Watch some of the linked videos, especially fire and bongnine...


Whussa matter? Offends your bourgeois sensibilities?

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In some of them, its tough at first to see who is the protester and who is the police. I mean . . . in lots of the photos you see two uniformed groups carrying uniform weapons/shields and in similar numbers.

I actually feel for the majority of folks on both sides. Most of the workers get caught up in the moment when all they want is better conmditions. As for the police, those guys are just worker bees too. Its ironic that a protect against the management/ elite manifests iteslf in a whole bunch of lower and middle income folks whaling away at each other

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Uncritical celebration of massive violence just because the word "labour" happens to be involved.

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Korea is an authoritarian state with the corporations firmly in control, even if moderate-left-wingers win the elections from time to time. Yeah, I feel bad for the draftees, but when you stand against freedom, I'm not gonna feel too bad.

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What are these people protesting against? Lack of violence?

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Looks like they've got their **** together. We could use them here.

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Korea is an authoritarian state with the corporations firmly in control, even if moderate-left-wingers win the elections from time to time. Yeah, I feel bad for the draftees, but when you stand against freedom, I'm not gonna feel too bad.



hmm-- che were you being deliberately ironic in appropriating the republicans linking of almost anything with "freedom"??

I don't know the details here but usually don't the police get involved to stop a wholesale rampage??

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At this point, could be, since violent labor battles with police are a tradition since Japanese times. They've only been somewhat democratic in the last decade or so, and the state is still extremely authoritarian. I'm not in a position to know if labor demonstrators would be peaceful without the police-thugs present, but there's 100 years of bad blood between them.

Even if we just limit ourselves to post-colonial rule, South Korea was a vicious state, where former Japanese colaborators and Korean fascists were handed power by the United States, overthrowing an nascent Korean republic. They slaughtered over 100,000 Koreans in the 1950s, sold 1000s of children to the West to finance their start-up capital, and cracked heads and disappeared people up into the 90s.

If these same videos were coming out of the North, no one would even question me for my solidarity with the protestors.

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Hmmm, those photos are of some of the wussier labor protestors too. When they really mean business they get steel pipes instead of big sticks.

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If these same videos were coming out of the North, no one would even question me for my solidarity with the protestors.


Correct, supposing there'd be any.

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they are pretty much savages

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Man, if I was a cop, I would totally shoot anyone that tossed a Molotov cocktail my way...

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Don't have an orgasm here, laurentius.

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um, okay I wont.

Do you have something else you want to share? Do you get orgasms from watching people getting beaten up by the authorities?

Nevermind. You would probably like to be ass-raped and pissed on by the police. Rightist scum...

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Some years ago, I attended a photography exhibit which included some shots of the protests against the construction of the Narita airport in Japan. The various left factons involved had their own color helmet and scarves and all had shields and batons. They faced similarly equiped riot police in a face to face confrontation. Except that the police had regulation length batons and the protestors had added half meter extensions to theirs. So the cops were swinging at air, while getting whacked by the protesters.

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quote:
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Man, if I was a cop, I would totally shoot anyone that tossed a Molotov cocktail my way...


I'd do that even if I wasn't a cop.

(Assuming I had a gun handy.)

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Protesters or rioters?

I dunno... I'm all in favor of protests, and all in favor of labor rights, but those pics look like a bunch of violent folks with sticks making a scene.

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duly noted.

 
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