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Richelieu
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Gatineau
Dec 2001
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Of course he denies everything.
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Richelieu
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Gatineau
Dec 2001
time: 00:37
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1 - Deny everything
2 - Create reasonable doubt about samples tampering
3 - Call O.J. to see if he has a few tricks that i could use
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
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Sava: If I felt you really knew jack **** about Lance Armstrong, I might care more about your opinion, but as usual, you're bereft of clue. Your stupid comments about cycling in the other thread confirm this.
Nobody knows all the details of the split, but there are certain facts you can't escape: Kristen said it was a long time coming, and the reasons cited for the split are all hers. She acknowledged strain on the marriage due to both the cancer treatment and Lance's international career (in particular, she didn't like having to cart their kids around the globe so they could see their dad). However, both she and Lance both stated that the split was amicable, which certainly doesn't jive with the notion that he "dumped her" for another woman. And I've not read one bit of evidence whatsoever that Lance was involved with Crow or any other woman prior to their split. THAT is your dumbass bald assertion.
I'm not a Lance groupie by any means--I was hoping Ulrich and Basso would give him more a run for his money. But this story from the French media should be taken with a heavy dose of skepticism for several reasons:
-It's a secondary urine sample from 1999 that's been in the hands of a third party for six years.
-It's only being matched up with Armstrong through a photograph.
-They've had a solid test for EPO since 2001, which means 5 times he either didn't dope and performed just as well (and better) as when he was doping or he's got a new drug that nobody's heard of yet (which is pretty damned unlikely).
-It's a French rag that has been hating on him nonstop, and they're the ones who purpotedly did the testing.
So as of yet there isn't remotely enough evidence to conclude Armstong's guilt in this. If there ever is, he should, of course, be stripped of his 1999 Tour title. But what we have here so far isn't close.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Sava
bikes are for pussies
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You should come out for a ride some day with some cyclists. lets make it short-- say only 100 miles through some little bumps . . . we like to call them the Rockies
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
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I can't believe you're hypocritical enough to condemn people for cycling for sport, when you don't know a thing about it and are an unemployed, out-of-shape depressed guy who sits around playing video games all day (in his parents house, yes?), smoking reefer and contemplating suicide. Oh wait, it's Sava, I guess I can believe it. 
Yeah, 'OMG CYCLISTS R TEH LOSERS!" indeed.
Oh, and it's pretty obvious to anyone with an intact brain that I'm not defending a "blood doping cheater," as I clearly pointed out that the evidence is very thin and, if it does turn out to be true, he should be stripped of his title(s). I guess juries who follow "innocent until proven guilty" are just coddling criminals, eh? How Republican of you.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Sava
its simple really . . . I want to see more evidence than a report from some French paper thats been anti-Armstrong for a long time. Its an odd methodology if a newspaper is testing someone's urine.
Also was EPO always banned?? Or was it like steroids in baseball where there was no rule against them for a while ?
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Richelieu
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Gatineau
Dec 2001
time: 00:37
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Originally posted by Flubber
Its an odd methodology if a newspaper is testing someone's urine.
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A lab did the testing. The lab did not know who'se samples they were testing. The newspaper claims that they linked the urine samples to Armstrong.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Richelieu
A lab did the testing. The lab did not know who'se samples they were testing. The newspaper claims that they linked the urine samples to Armstrong. |
I assumed it was a lab but what I mean was who commissioned the testing and for what purpose.?
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:37
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Originally posted by Sava
I ran out of weed at the beginning of july
so no smoking for almost 2 months
next harvest in maybe 6 weeks
i see your argument is so weak you have to try to insult my life  |
Your defense is that you've run out?
And you've been insulting people's lives all along (unfounded accusations against Armstrong's personal life, insulting cyclists, etc.), so why shouldn't you get the same?
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evidence is thin? 6 confirmed tests prove he used EPO in 1999 |
I already posted why this evidence was dubious in that post you conveniently ignored. On top of that:
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/ne...ia-213611-1.xml
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A French specialist doping laboratory said on Tuesday it could not confirm that tests it had conducted for the blood-boosting drug EPO belonged to Lance Armstrong. |
Gee, they can't confirm the samples are even his--THIS is your wonderful evidence?
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from the NYtimes article... referring to the French newspaper's report |
And Marchand is a doctor? A chemist? Oh, no, he's a race bureaucrat...
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and what is hypocritical about my condemnations? |
Hmmm, could be your insulting people's chosen activities/hobbies while your own are hardly worthy of much respect. I'm willing to bet those fat cyclists are still more productive members of society. Hell, who wouldn't be?
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how do I not know a thing about cycling? it's riding a bike... |
You just prove my point more. Ok, we'll get you on a road bike and see how you do. First, I'll try not to laugh every time you fall over. Then I'll try not to smoke you too badly when you're dying on a hill because you haven't a clue about gear shifting on it.
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oh wait, let me try the Boris arguing style: "You're just a dumb fag, what do you know?" |
Except I didn't engage in any such ad hominem. You were first insulting other people's life choices, so it was only proper to point out how you might want to remove the plank from your own eye first.
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