04-09-2005 02:22									#31
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On the subject of spouting details. What game year did we all agree to simultaneously attack Platy... doh!

(tee hee! Only kidding Platy.)

	04-09-2005 16:59									#32
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OK, the updated version was just sent out to Lazurus. Unless I sent you a PM detailing otherwise, you have the same passwords. Your starting location may have shifted a tile or two as well, but generally speaking your in the same location on the same map. FYI and Good Luck!


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	04-09-2005 19:37									#33
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2101 to Cata

hmm wonder if not having cent eco in first option will let me get planetary networks abit earlier

	04-09-2005 22:28									#34
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you need to pick up cent eco as your second tech theres a great thread on IA beelining around here...

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	04-09-2005 23:47									#35
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Passed to Platy

	05-09-2005 02:16									#36
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2102 passed on to Lazerus

	05-09-2005 02:41									#37
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2102 to cata

and we're off with the worm count already .. dammit stupidly didnt have a scout ready to back him up aswell, thats 10ecs lost.

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	05-09-2005 05:23									#39
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I know it's early days yet but at the start of my last turn (2102 - passed to Platy) I got the results of a battle. Must have been M/Wms, but it got me to thinking about battle reports so I thought I would ask a few questions. When we submit battle reports it is to let the player who was attacked know why their units are dead (ie, no longer on the field of play) or dying as you dont get to see the full picture in PBEM the same way you would in a straight human v AI game. Have I got that right?

So the battle report only goes to the player concerned? What about if there are other (human) players' units nearby? Surely they should get some sort of report also. The precedent being that if an AI faction attacks another AI within your unit's LOS you get to see it and can therefore assess defensive strengths in the area to some extent.

Also, when making a report is it sufficient to just say 'artillery bombardment from x,y to x,y unit (named) takes damage'? Or do you have to notify the player what the artillery piece was, etc?

And the last question for the night...is this all a bit anally retentive or am I just tired?

	05-09-2005 05:30									#40
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battle report is this a normal pbem procedure?
think everyone can just figure out what happaned during oponnents turn otherwise

	05-09-2005 13:26									#41
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2103 to Lazerus

battle reports adds something to the expierence

agaisnt worms- No

example from Civ3 game:

3/3/ warrior attacks 3/3 archer -2 hp on archer

Reports would include promotions

At first with the limited contact or lack of allies, leave faction names out. But as time goes by and allies increase, start using names

waht ever the majority wants

I vote Battle reports

	05-09-2005 15:18									#42
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can you give me an exampla from a smac game? i dont care what they do at civ3

theres no way im going to write up a 10 page report on how my xchoppers demolished your bases,etc etc

	05-09-2005 21:04									#43
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Technically you don't have to report anything because the other player will receive a report of what was attacked, where and who won in his messages.

Role-playing out the actual attack here in the forum adds abit of fun to the game though

Urgh just been really hurt by the proverbial trojan horse, dagger disguised as a blessing


2103 to Cata

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as long as its not a enforced rule,i could even do some of that

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	05-09-2005 22:46									#45
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I think I may have opened a can of worms here. I have to admit, I read about battle reports when I was doing my research prior to joining a PBEM. I got it from a thread relating to Civ III (Cata's head has probably just exploded there!) PBEM's so it may not fit exactly but surely the principle remains.

If you are playing vs AI alone then you get to see everything that is within your unit's LOS anyway. The nature of PBEM means that, that ain't the case.

Personally I am not in favour of forcing players into battle reports as they can be time consuming I would imagine. Just thought I would bring it up in case anyone was unaware.

I dont know about you but I often sent in expendable units prior to an attack to test out bombardment capability. If the unit gets hammered by artillery fire and then polished off by stronger units, then I know to cover my advancing units with counter-bombardment cover.

	05-09-2005 23:08									#46
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2104 to Lazerus

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2104 to Cata

	06-09-2005 00:06									#48
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2104 to Platy

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2105 - Lazerus

	06-09-2005 21:30									#51
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2105 to cata

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	09-09-2005 05:25									#53
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we may need a replacement for chill. his email seems to have been deleted from aol.com,i checked...

Rules Clarifications.Simply to avoid headaches in the future

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So what about stuff like stockpile bug ? not allowed i presume ?
damn don't say we need a replacement already he can't have had his email deleted due to inactivity since it's only been a week or so since he was on.

	09-09-2005 22:52									#55
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if no one is found soon enough (week or 2?)

what about another restart?

	09-09-2005 23:13									#56
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isnt aol an ISP? if he canceled his payments\service they may have deleted it

go ahead and use stockpile bug. thats just a rough draft,and on darsnans suggestion to me
and like i mention there,if it isnt mentioned,do it i dont see anything that says stockpile bug on that list. i wouldnt even read it if i hadnt posted it.

	14-09-2005 23:42									#57
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where are things at?

	15-09-2005 01:48									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex where are things at?

I would say you have waited long enough. Someone should probably post for a replacement.


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	15-09-2005 03:47									#59
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darsnan,id like to restart on that exact same map,with minor changes to the replacement players terrain just so chill cannot inadvertantly give info on it. its only been 5 turns anyway

	15-09-2005 05:43									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Cataphract887 darsnan,id like to restart on that exact same map,with minor changes to the replacement players terrain just so chill cannot inadvertantly give info on it. its only been 5 turns anyway

I'll butt in here-- Doesn't that seem like overkill?? If you can't trust your new player not to cheat whats the point??