02-09-2005 02:18									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Sava marshal law? is he related to general chaos and major suckage?

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He would soon neutralise the looters...

	02-09-2005 02:19									#32
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CNN just said that someone drove by the crowd at the superdome (i think...might've been astrodome) and started firing at the crowd.

Also, they said that some of the prisoners have gotten guns at the prison facility.

Man, it's like anarchy there.

	02-09-2005 02:19									#33
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The state needs to take control of the horrible situation over there, using deadly force if neccesary.

Then the state needs to contemplate very thoroughly how it is possible that a state of ruthless anarchy can emergy from a tragedy like this.

I'm very sorry to say, but the performance of the US goverment, be it state or federal, is an appaling thing to witness, and it is NOT a very good example it sets.

If this is the kind of democracy and freedom that needs to be spread globally, please spare me from it.

	02-09-2005 02:21									#34
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Just found this one through Drudgereport..

http://cnn.worldnews.printthis.clic...&partnerID=2006

It says there have been cases of someone playing snipers, targetting patients, nurses and hospital staff, there have been gunmen, looters, turned boat back, used for medical evacuations. And this is just from few fronts.

Now, if this **** is truly going on like this, I see no reason at all to see any mercy but drop a bomb on their ass. These people are basically not just stealing few DVDs, but actually looting and threatning and blocking medical evacuations for kicks and thrills and some for looting. SOme are out there just to shoot and kill.

I say it's time for every single one of these cases to be found with a bullet in their necks. No need for courts now. This is emergency time, so democracy has to be in the backseat for a while. Security is now more important and that recue missions can be done. Success of the rescue missions heavily depend from no one trying to deliberately sabotage them, meaning you have to kill these people. There is no nice way to put it. More lives will be saved when these criminals are shot on sight. I don't personally care, the people who use situation like this to their benefit and cause more misery right now are going to hell anyway, the worst crimes you can do is right now. It sound srough but I would be ready to personally order all cops and military to shoot these people on sight if verification is 100%. And give medal to every decent kill maker.

To put it in short, these people need to die in order for more people, GOOD people to live! THe choice is not that difficult.

TO be accurate, these people are just as bad as your HC terrorists. Show no mercy. Scum in human skin.

	02-09-2005 02:21									#35
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Any time other than this I would say find another way through for the rescuers, or peacefully figure out something to do with the attackers

But New Orleans is definitely now inside the zone where martial law applies...

If there are actual nuts that are actually shooting at rescue helicopters, BLOW THEIR F***ING HEADS OFF

Are these helicopters clearly designated as rescue choppers? I just thought, maybe some nutzo down there thinks the Mexicans have invaded and are snapping up people to take as hostages or something...

	02-09-2005 02:36									#36
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Martial law is in place, and the military should do whatever it deems necessary to fulfill its obligations and responsibilities.

If there is a god, every single son of a ***** looting jewelry or hindering/attacking those personnel trying to carry out SAR or provide other emergency services, would drown in the water after being attacked by alligators and snakes.

	02-09-2005 02:37									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Just found this one through Drudgereport..

So it's nothing we have to take seriously then.

	02-09-2005 02:39									#38
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link to CNN though.

	02-09-2005 02:40									#39
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Yeah, there's a lot of rumors flying around right now. The media is reporting some of them.

	02-09-2005 02:44									#40
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I guess we should wait for Ananova to tell us the truth, what really happened.

	02-09-2005 02:45									#41
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Don't worry, the National Guard will sort it out!

	02-09-2005 02:45									#42
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I thought you were banned.

	02-09-2005 02:47									#43
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well ok. I admit at this moment all the news, some of them might be just rumours. Let's hope they are just rumours.

	02-09-2005 02:49									#44
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I thought you were banned.

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	02-09-2005 02:52									#45
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There are methods for dealing with circumstances like this, and they're generally more along the lines of tear gas and rubber bullets, not machine guns. Knowing that soldiers/police men are shooting people is not exactly going to make them more eager to stick around and meet with relief personel.
There is a happy (err..) medium here that involves a certain amount of force to restore order and impress upon people that shooting at rescue or police forces is not a good idea, but shooting to kill doesn't really make the relief efforts run any smoother.

	02-09-2005 02:58									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai People always over-react. No nukes needed. Just heavy artillery, Apache, fighter strikes. Take out anything that moves. And if a few innocents die, too bad. Apologize later.

Yes. Isn't there a giant stash of reserve armor and artillery in Texas? They could build fire bases all around New Orleans so that deadly pinpoint barrages could be delivered in short order on top of any hostile.

	02-09-2005 02:59									#47
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I think the title says rescuers fired upon, so I assume we are talking about folks who are armed and using their weapons or threatning to use them. Are you suggesting cops etc sohuld go after them with rubber bullets? NO way. A gun fight is a gun fight.

For possible mobs uprising that could erupt violently, rubber bullets. For criminals with real weapons, doing real harm, real bullets.

	02-09-2005 03:04									#48
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If media is to be believed, there is anarchy at the doorsteps soon. I hope it's just a rumour and reacting over the top, I really do hope that.

From AP:

" Police say storm victims are being raped and beaten inside the New Orleans Convention Center.

About 15,200 people who had taken shelter at the convention center to await buses grew increasingly hostile.

Police Chief Eddie Compass says he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly beaten back by an angry mob.

Compass says, "We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten."
He says tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.

In hopes of defusing the unrest at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they can find. But the bedlam appeared to make leaving difficult."

Other experts report of social breakdown and things turning really ugly really soon, uglier, predatory.

	02-09-2005 03:24									#49
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Flush.

	02-09-2005 03:24									#50
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They just interviewed a (former military) guy who's been in the convention center the last couple of days. He was saying he'd heard the NG was coming, but they shouldn't come unless they had somebody with them that had answers about busses out of town because the crowd was well armed and would start a firefight...

	02-09-2005 03:40									#51
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Interesting times.

	02-09-2005 03:43									#52
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That's just an incredible low-point, even from you.

	02-09-2005 04:29									#53
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It's disgusting to see so many people willing to aid in the destruction of their own city and the death of their neighbors

People like this deserve death delivered post haste, courtesy of the United States Armed Forces.

	02-09-2005 04:38									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi They just interviewed a (former military) guy who's been in the convention center the last couple of days. He was saying he'd heard the NG was coming, but they shouldn't come unless they had somebody with them that had answers about busses out of town because the crowd was well armed and would start a firefight...

Amazing-- Does anyone think that shooting up some innocent guardsmen will speed their rescue ??

	02-09-2005 04:42									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Compass says, "We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten." He says tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.

Wow-- when I hear rapes, I'm not thinking that the perpetrator is some sort of "victim"-- They are the vilest scummiest form of predator possible-- taking advantage of a tragedy and compounding it for a survivor.

Amid the tragedy, you usually hear some heartwarming stories about people pulling together and overcoming together. Maybe its the media's slant but so far all I am hearing is about victims fighting each other and confronting the little help that has reached them

	02-09-2005 04:47									#56
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It's just the slant, Flubber. I've heard some really amazing cool stuff.

	02-09-2005 04:48									#57
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franky it has to be the superdome the astro dome is in houston and the refugees havent arrived there as of yet. But the reports of gun figthts have been documented by the hospitals and the ng a bit earlier. There was a col. that said the rescue efforts have been slowed due to gunfire and violence. On a happier note there will be 25000 refugees relocated to san antonio at an old af base that was closed a few years back. These folks should start arriving with in the next few days.

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San Antonio has a new suburb.

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quote: From AP: " Police say storm victims are being raped and beaten inside the New Orleans Convention Center. About 15,200 people who had taken shelter at the convention center to await buses grew increasingly hostile. Police Chief Eddie Compass says he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly beaten back by an angry mob. Compass says, "We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten."

Kosovo!

	02-09-2005 06:01									#60
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quote: I have little sympathy for thugs and criminals in general, and even less in survival situaions. People are dying because of these criminals action. This is a life or death situation for tens of thousands of people. These people have chosen death.

quote: People always over-react. No nukes needed. Just heavy artillery, Apache, fighter strikes. Take out anything that moves. And if a few innocents die, too bad. Apologize later.

quote: IF some gangbangers start shooting at choppers making rescue missions, shooting at rescue workers, I say shoot back and shoot to kill, shoot first and shoot for thrills. Just let everyone know, that no gun fights with rescue workers or authorities will go by without that person(s) being a)arrested and given life by default with no chance for parole b) gunned down. In the name of rescuing those who want to be saved, instead of being chased away by PUNKS who deserve to die.

with so many quotes going around that sum this up,why so much discussion?