03-09-2005 20:08									#1
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Well, I got this idea from the Turkey thread.

What I'd like is everyone to find a map of your "greater country", by which I mean maps of your country at it's greatest historical extent or including all "historical provinces" or including all nationals living in neighbouring countries as minorities or something along those lines, I bet you know what I mean.

Rules:

1. Don't draw them yourself.
2. The map should ideally have been "actual" in the last century or so, as a part of someone's political platform or something.
3. If there are many such maps, pick the most important ones, don't post twenty of them.

	03-09-2005 20:13									#2
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This is for Croatia, I'll try to find a bigger one later:



It includes all Bosnia and parts of nowadays Serbia. This was never a teritorial reality, but NDH, a quisling "state" during the WWII came close.

	03-09-2005 20:13									#3
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well I read that thread too and I wondered what this "greater finland" thing was all about and I found this disturbing map in wikiopedia.
now the green part belongs to norway, there aren't (m)any finns there. what is "lebensraum" in finnish?

	03-09-2005 20:15									#4
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this is the extent actually controlled in WWII. The control was not perfect because of partisans and war, but this image still warms the heart of many a Croatian nationalist:

	03-09-2005 20:16									#5
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Suur-Suomi

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Wow, look at this perl. Greater Armenia:



Hell with modesty

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this is norway at it's largest, before the black death and the danes ****ed us over.

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	03-09-2005 20:24									#8
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Hungary pre-WWI

	03-09-2005 20:26									#9
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This one caused us much grief. One proposal for Greater Serbia:

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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion this is the extent actually controlled in WWII. The control was not perfect because of partisans and war, but this image still warms the heart of many a Croatian nationalist:

seems like most of istra and the coast is occupied by italy, what do the nationalists think about that?

	03-09-2005 20:29									#11
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Hungary got screwed royally post WWI, but to be fair the yellow area which says "Horvatoszag" (Croatia) wasn't really a true part of Hungary, more like a federal component. Basically, we had one crown and Croatia had lots of paperwork about it's autonomy, of course, Hungarians didn't always appreciate that but we petitioned Vienna to death

	03-09-2005 20:30									#12
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I'd say it looks about that
PLUS colonies.

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	03-09-2005 20:30									#13
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I think you should just give Croatia over to Hungary. They'll take better care of you than the Serbs.

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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf seems like most of istra and the coast is occupied by italy, what do the nationalists think about that?

True. The quisling bastard sold those parts to Italy, and some still think him a hero of some sort . They are not very consistent. But trust me, those wackos are a tiny tiny minority over here.

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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP I think you should just give Croatia over to Hungary. They'll take better care of you than the Serbs.

They're wellcome... as tourists


Heresson, what colonies?

	03-09-2005 20:35									#16
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that's the most optimistical version

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	03-09-2005 20:40									#17
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I'm surprized you don't find an old map of Poland-Lithuania.

	03-09-2005 20:43									#18
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This is a plan for greater Israel, but it came from an anti-semetic site, so I dunno if its legit or not:

	03-09-2005 20:44									#19
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Supposedly, this is a map of Greater Albania, but I got it from a Serbian site, so who knows if it was ever circulated as such or is just scaremongering from Serbs:



And:

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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf well I read that thread too and I wondered what this "greater finland" thing was all about and I found this disturbing map in wikiopedia. now the green part belongs to norway, there aren't (m)any finns there. what is "lebensraum" in finnish?

Generally, the Greater Finland enthusiasts of pre-1945 wanted to annex the areas marked with purple. The other areas were part of some rather utopistic plans, though some nationalist organizations did work among the Finnish minorities in Norway and Sweden.

Also there were (are?) some Finns living in the green part of Norway, as well as in the yellow part of Sweden. I don't know if they were anything near the majority, though.

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Someone needs to find a map of the United States annexing Canada.

	03-09-2005 20:56									#22
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This is the one that had millions of Greeks shaking in terror for years:



Map of united Macedonia (published by "Nova Makedonija",1992)
The broad geographical area of Macedonia appears to fall in its entity, within the "ethnic" borders of the "Macedonian" nation. Within the borders of Greek Macedonia localities are designed solely by their old Turkish or Slav names.

	03-09-2005 20:59									#24
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^^ just in case you don't get it, that's "greater" Belgium

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Großdeutschland

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	03-09-2005 21:01									#26
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But Macedonians are not the only ones with designs to the territory currently held by Greece. This seems to be a map of Greater Bulgaria:

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quote: Originally posted by alva . ^^ just in case you don't get it, that's "greater" Belgium

	03-09-2005 21:03									#28
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Stefu, there are people there who speak Kven (or more often their grandparents did speak it), which is some kind of Finnish. But theyr'e a minority and probably only the third largest ethnic group there.

The green part is called Finnmark, but that's just because the Samis used to be called Finns too.

	03-09-2005 21:06									#29
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Yeah and Sami people suck donkey pole so we don't care what they think. They still are our property and we tell them how things are and if they don't appreciate it, then can go to hell and die first.

Don't fall into the tricks of these people. THey only want your money and thne disappear. THey are thieves and crooked nasty people, Punks and Criminals. No mercy for P&C.

	03-09-2005 21:09									#30
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Now this was a biatch to find. Map of Greater Slovenia made some time in 18xx. Proposes to consist of large portions of Italy, Croatia and Austria. Never was a reality, but some still dream: