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Datajack Franit is offline Datajack Franit
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Fiume was 86%
but considering how whole Croatia looks nowadays, you can keep it :vomit:

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Greater Canada:


"Territorial Evolution 1927-2027"

That map is so misleading when you're not taking great effort to point out that it's supposed to be a JOKE!

Greenland never was and never will be claimed as a territory by neither the British or Canadians.

BTW, excellent thread this. VetLegion

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You're forgetting the Croatian whores, Vetleg.

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Can't find a good one of Sweden at it's greatest extent, but here's a bad one:



here's another one. good thing you guys gave us the trondheim area back after 2 years, it would suck to be cut in two like that. still waiting for jemtland and bohus...




this site has many nice historical maps btw
http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/haindex.html


here's another one of WW2 Croatia

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"Territorial Evolution 1927-2027"

That map is so misleading when you're not taking great effort to point out that it's supposed to be a JOKE!

Greenland never was and never will be claimed as a territory by neither the British or Canadians.

BTW, excellent thread this. VetLegion


No one's laughing here. We think there's oil.

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"Territorial Evolution 1927-2027"

That map is so misleading when you're not taking great effort to point out that it's supposed to be a JOKE!

Greenland never was and never will be claimed as a territory by neither the British or Canadians.

BTW, excellent thread this. VetLegion


It's a joke!!?

Phew! I thought that was real!

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Indie verloren, al verloren...


I think in the long term we got the better end of that deal...

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BTW, did we own New Amsterdam and Surinam at the same time??


We did for a while, before the English wars.

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wow, you even had Taiwan, part of New Zeland and some island in the north (I don;t know what for, though)
Oh, and I must find a map of dutch settlements in Major Poland.


Yeah, we had trading posts or small colonies in places few people know about. Japan, China, Spitsbergen (that's the island in the Arctic), we even had trading posts across the Middle East (this map doesn't even show all of them). Luxembourg was Dutch until about 100 years ago (and they couldn't even be arsed to pick a new flag when they finally became independent ).

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I remember a Dutch friend convincing me that England was kind of Dutch colony as well

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That map is BS propaganda.


No it isn't. Herzel dreamed of a greater Israel compromising everything between the Suez and the Euphrates.

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Napoleon

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I remember a Dutch friend convincing me that England was kind of Dutch colony as well


Well, that's stretching the definition of 'colony' to a ridiculous extent But the Anglo-Saxons and the other Germanic tribes that invaded England after the fall of the Roman empire did of course come from continental Europe. Of all modern languages, Frisian (a Dutch dialect) is the language most similar to English (and Old English and Old Frisian are nearly identical).

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English - Angles + Saxons (Anglosaxon) from Dutchie Land...

Do you want them back?

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Nah, you keep 'em. We're glad to get rid of 'em

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No it isn't. Herzel dreamed of a greater Israel compromising everything between the Suez and the Euphrates.


Source?

I'm interested.

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Lazy bastard

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Source?

I'm interested.


Herzel's diaries. They're published.

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wow, you even had Taiwan, part of New Zeland and some island in the north (I don;t know what for, though)
Oh, and I must find a map of dutch settlements in Major Poland.


That island in the north was our tradingpost with Japan, Oone of our better holdings also.

For a long time we had exclusive trading rights with the Japanese, shame we lost them

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Greater Mongolia:

Mongol Dominions

PWND!

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This thread is so useful to determine what my goals should be in my Victoria games.

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Well we have NZ in its current form. I think at the beginning of WWII we landed a boat on samoa and took it off the germans, so technically we had that too.

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USSR. Probably the largest country (if you do not count Great Britain with colonies that is)

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Another one

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Fiume was 86%
but considering how whole Croatia looks nowadays, you can keep it :vomit:


You are most generous. You can keep your fascists but find us a map of their aspirations about Croatian coast.

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Feb 2000
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USSR. Probably the largest country (if you do not count Great Britain with colonies that is)


And most of it pretty hostile though

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In Soviet Russia, colonies count you!

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Now now, if you want a map of 'greater Israel' as in 'the maximum interpretation of bibleic promises', that would be it. However, this has never been a part of any political platform of any political party, before the creation of Israel, or after it, so it's meaningless to debate this. I am sure Hertzel may have envisioned something like that, but this isn't really wrong since at the time this was bordering science fiction, much like the creation of Israel, altogether. 'sides, at the time , the population of the region was sparse enough, and the jewish population was large enough, to consider the territory basically unoccupied. Now if you want to debate real political 'greater Israel' maps, dig one up.

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Sir Og is offline Sir Og
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Bulgaria at it's hight. Early 13th century.



Bulgaria according to the San Stefano peace treaty 1878 (the red line).

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Now now, if you want a map of 'greater Israel' as in 'the maximum interpretation of bibleic promises', that would be it. However, this has never been a part of any political platform of any political party, before the creation of Israel, or after it, so it's meaningless to debate this. I am sure Hertzel may have envisioned something like that, but this isn't really wrong since at the time this was bordering science fiction, much like the creation of Israel, altogether. 'sides, at the time , the population of the region was sparse enough, and the jewish population was large enough, to consider the territory basically unoccupied. Now if you want to debate real political 'greater Israel' maps, dig one up.


emphasis by me

You ARE kidding, aren't you?

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Bulgaria at it's hight. Early 13th century.


I'm pretty sure Bulgarians/Slavs never captured Soluń/Thessalonike.

Also, what's that thing over it on the other map?

 
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