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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:33
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Spiff, two words: pro file.
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:33
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But how old are YOU?
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Ancyrean
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Back to Ankara, Turkey
Feb 2003
time: 12:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Bereta_Eder
even the crescent moon turkey uses for its flag is of byzantine origin |
There are two stories I know about the Turkish flag:
One is a legend that says after a particularly bloody battle, the sultan was touring the battlefield and came up with a group of Turkish troops slain close to each other and their blood formed a pool, upon which the reflection of the moon and a bright star (probably Venus, as they come very close to each other at times) fell. He was much moved by the spectacle and made it into a banner.
The second is less dramatic, that the crescent symbolises Islam, and the star the Turkish nation/people ("the star of Islam").
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hey even the turks were christian before meeting the arabs. |
The first meaningful contact between Turks and Arabs took place in early 8th century, after the Arab conquest of Persia. At the time the Turks in Central Asia were mostly shamanic, and converted to islam later over a long period of time. Christianity never had a noticeable presence in that region.
Of course, there were Turkish/Turkic tribes that settled west of the Urals by then and they might have been converted to Christianity. Actually, there's a group of Orthodox Christian Turks right now (numbering a few hundred thousand) living in Moldova, speaking a very comrehensible version of modern Turkish.
There had also been Buddhist (Uighurs) and Jewish (Khazar) Turkic kingdoms/khanates in history.
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Heresson
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of frogs
Jun 2000
time: 06:33
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Nestorians have had successful missions among Turkish peoples, also after the conquest of Mesopotamia by Arabs.
Ujghurs were partially Christian as well (well, Manichaeanism could be considered a branch of Christianity as well), their alphabet derives from Syriac one.
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Originally posted by Ancyrean
There are two stories I know about the Turkish flag:
One is a legend that says after a particularly bloody battle, the sultan was touring the battlefield and came up with a group of Turkish troops slain close to each other and their blood formed a pool, upon which the reflection of the moon and a bright star (probably Venus, as they come very close to each other at times) fell. He was much moved by the spectacle and made it into a banner.
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My Turkish friend is absolutely convinced that it's a true history about the battle of Mantzikert 
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The second is less dramatic, that the crescent symbolises Islam, and the star the Turkish nation/people ("the star of Islam").
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I've heard that the star was added after the conquest of Constantinople
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Of course, there were Turkish/Turkic tribes that settled west of the Urals by then and they might have been converted to Christianity. Actually, there's a group of Orthodox Christian Turks right now (numbering a few hundred thousand) living in Moldova, speaking a very comrehensible version of modern Turkish.
There had also been Buddhist (Uighurs) and Jewish (Khazar) Turkic kingdoms/khanates in history. |
There were some Christians among Khazars and Turkish Bulgars as well. Also, some remains of Patzinaks and Uzes in the Balkans are Christian I guess. Though I rememeber one of these tiny group doesn't speak Turkish anymore.
Also, Polish-Ukrainian Armenians,
spoke Turkish and were Christian.
There were also some Turks that settled around Caesarea Mazaca (Kayseri) before the conquest of Anadolu by Muslim Turks - they were Christian as well.
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