14-09-2005 11:30									#1
	Refugees in Houston "thays" wearing out their welcome. Put an end to popups!

Just to let some of you know what is going on in Houston:

Talked to a volunteer who spent one day on the food handout line and told me he was not going back to those "bunch of ungratfuls SOB's". Told me of how those people spent their two thousand dollars on Nike,Puma shoes,boom boxs,music cds,pizzas,hunnybuns and sodas.
Said he was serving food and the people complained about the service and made racial remarks about him {being white} "how bout time that a white man had to serve blacks" this is what made him not want to come back.
I ask if it was a single incedent but he said no that it was the majority.

["Thays" prefer to be called "suvivers" rather than "refugees"]

Heard the Nike donated shoes for the kids to go to school, people were seen selling them for cash.
Local church folk got together and cooked food for the "survivers" out of the kindness of their hearts.
The "suvivers" said they didnot like the food but had they come "ask them first what they had liked" they would then eaten what was given to them.

No one has asked for building material to be sent to rebuild "thays" homes as only cash money is wanted.

One more......
FEMA got these luxery cruise liners to dock in Galveston..NOT ONE of the "Survivers" wanted to go take advantage of the free offer of free room and board for SIX MONTHES!

There are many of sordid storys like these coming out of Houston.News media does'nt want to carry the stories.
I suppose it has something to do with race...IMHO.

From what I have been hearing people here are getting sick of the whinning and ungrateful adittude being displayed.
I think there will be a puplic backlash as to people being so generous and opening up the wallet during the next crises.


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	14-09-2005 11:38									#2
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There's ****ers in every group

	14-09-2005 11:46									#3
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I reckon the "survivors" have "interesting" stories to tell as well...

	14-09-2005 11:55									#4
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Shame on them for not kissing the feet of their glorious Texas saviours.

	14-09-2005 12:10									#6
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quote: Originally posted by joncha Shame on them for not kissing the feet of their glorious Texas saviours.

Kinda hard to help someone who will not make an effort to help themselves.

FYI
Most of these people have been getting free giveouts from the government most of their lifes.
They have come to expect everything to be given to them.
It is a case of "white mans guilt" that this social mentality has gone on for so long.

Where is the incentive to better yourself if everything is given to you without effort.

	14-09-2005 12:24									#8
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I like Docfeelgood's location..."Humble, Texas."



But I agree. I don't think they deserve to complain because Texas is helping them out. But I'm just as sure that there are a heck of a lot of people out there that ARE grateful for help.

Sounds like a few sour apples are spoiling the bunch.

	14-09-2005 12:28									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan I like Docfeelgood's location..."Humble, Texas." But I agree. I don't think they deserve to complain because Texas is helping them out. But I'm just as sure that there are a heck of a lot of people out there that ARE grateful for help. Sounds like a few sour apples are spoiling the bunch.

Thank you Ever been to Humble?

From what I'v heard it is more than a few

IMHO
I just get this bad feeling that there is going to be puplic backlash against helping people in the next disaster.

	14-09-2005 12:34									#10
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Those lazy hurricane victims. They should just work harder next time.

	14-09-2005 12:38									#11
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quote: Originally posted by joncha Those lazy hurricane victims. They should just work harder next time.

	14-09-2005 12:53									#12
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It's unfortunate, no doubt. But I gotta say, if I watched my state and local government officials screw up my evacuation; then watched the Feds mutter excuses about not knowing things that could be learned from watching tv; then saw the rescue effort prioritize the rescue of people in luxury hotels over the people in the Superdome; then heard the Prez say, "you're doin' a heck of a job, Brownie"; then heard that his mother thought that it was okay for me to sleep in the AstroDome, because its better than what "those people" are used to -- I'm not sure how much gratitude I could bring myself to feel about my situation, however much such gratitude might be deserved.

I also gotta say, if I ever lose everything I have in this world, and someone gives me a pair of Nikes, you can bet your ass I'll be selling them, buying some cheap sneaks at Payless, and pocketing the difference.

	14-09-2005 12:55									#13
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Well Doc, you are talking about people who:

1. have their homes wrecked by a hurricane
2. don't know when they can go back
3. are living in a place where conditions are, frankly, piss poor

As a result, you are looking at a bunch of cranky people. I don't pretend that I understand - my natural reaction is to snap back. That's why I am not a nurse, social worker, etc. Anyway, volunteers helping them should know this and interpret their reactions in this perspective. If they don't, maybe the NPOs aren't doing things right.

	14-09-2005 13:01									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Told me of how those people spent their two thousand dollars on Nike,Puma shoes ... Heard the Nike donated shoes for the kids to go to school, people were seen selling them for cash.

So they're buying shoes, and selling shoes???

And I can't believe these people are buying pizzas and sodas!!!!!

	14-09-2005 17:13									#15
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If they've already bought shoes with their allowance maybe they had no need for the donated ones and so sold them for money to buy something they did need?

Maybe they really, really didn't like the food prepared. For instance, some people just assume the black people are crazy about fried chicken. Some black people get really really angry about such presumptions.

Poor people don't spend a lot of time on cruise ships. maybe they're a little fearful of living on a boat. Recent experience with large bodies of water probably haven't helped.

	14-09-2005 17:24									#16
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Who doesn't like fried chicken? It's delicious.

	14-09-2005 17:29									#17
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If I had just been though a flood I would rather be on terra firma rather than a boat myself...

quote: Kinda hard to help someone who will not make an effort to help themselves. FYI Most of these people have been getting free giveouts from the government most of their lifes. They have come to expect everything to be given to them. It is a case of "white mans guilt" that this social mentality has gone on for so long. Where is the incentive to better yourself if everything is given to you without effort.

What a load of crap, I bet most of those people worked hard all thier lives. THE RIGHT'S WHOLE WELFARE QUEEN BS IS A MYTH!!!

	14-09-2005 17:47									#18
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quote: If I had just been though a flood I would rather be on terra firma rather than a boat myself...

If I had just had by home obliterated, was missing half my famiy members, had my bank destroyed so I could not get any money, no job, and was living on a cot on the 25 yard line a cruise liner would by about 1000 levels above what could reasobably expect to be given as aid.

And they have shuffle board!

	14-09-2005 19:28									#19
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quote: "how bout time that a white man had to serve blacks"

Knowing New Orleans, it might have been the first time that many of them had seen such a thing. Houston's a whole 'nother world.

	15-09-2005 04:31									#20
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An offensive thread by Docfeelgood. Who would ever have predicted?

	15-09-2005 04:40									#21
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Yeah: "thays"? "suvivers"? Has Texas done an' gone become as accent free as a Hollywood TV show?

	15-09-2005 04:44									#22
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Doc Strangelove catheter insertion skills > docfeelgood rectal exam skillz

	15-09-2005 05:09									#23
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Interesting slant.


I don't doubt that among the survivors are the normal proportion of the lazy, greedy, fraudulent asshats and downright disagreeable people that you would in any moderately large population of people. The shock is starting to wear off and people will begin to act according to their own personalities. So none of the things described suprise me just as stories about survivors performing remarkable acts of sacrifice and kindness do not shock me.

Within every population there is some good and some bad people. No news there

	15-09-2005 05:12									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Kinda hard to help someone who will not make an effort to help themselves. FYI Most of these people have been getting free giveouts from the government most of their lifes. They have come to expect everything to be given to them. It is a case of "white mans guilt" that this social mentality has gone on for so long.

Free handouts from the government? Did you see where they lived?

quote: Where is the incentive to better yourself if everything is given to you without effort.

Why don't you ask rich people whose parents pay their college tuition?

	15-09-2005 05:12									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Who doesn't like fried chicken? It's delicious.

I agree.

	15-09-2005 05:19									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Why don't you ask rich people whose parents pay their college tuition?

I don't know about rich people but for most of the regular folks that I knew, parents paying (or helping pay) for college tuition was contingent on taking a full course load and performing to a certain level, plus getting employment in the summer vacation

	15-09-2005 05:20									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Who doesn't like fried chicken? It's delicious.

I also agree. Probably the first time I agreed with Agathon

	15-09-2005 05:35									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber I don't know about rich people but for most of the regular folks that I knew, parents paying (or helping pay) for college tuition was contingent on taking a full course load and performing to a certain level, plus getting employment in the summer vacation

Way to miss the point. Hardly anyone doesn't take a full course load as it is, and if you don't perform you get put on probation or suspended by the university in any case.

And the big difference is that the parents could help pay for tuition. For other people it effectively puts university out of reach unless there is a reasonable loans scheme. In the US it is basically beyond most poor people.

	15-09-2005 05:50									#29
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Fried chicken brings people of all races, creeds and cultures together.

	15-09-2005 06:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Fried chicken brings people of all races, creeds and cultures together.

So did Ray Charles.