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Macedonia
May 2001
time: 00:37
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
'Those sharp words don't bother Delisle. She enjoys driving her nationalist opponents crazy. In her new book, Delisle is challenging conventional Quebec wisdom that during the time of the Second World War, Quebec was an inward-looking place that didn't think much about the fascist regimes in Europe. That is a "big lie," Delisle says in her typically pointed way. In fact, she says, Quebec's priests, lawyers and academics were well aware of European-style fascism, and some of them liked it. Not surprisingly, most Quebec academics prefer to ignore that chapter of Quebec history, says John Hellman, a history professor at McGill, where Delisle did her postdoctoral research. Quebec academics don't want to dredge up memories of how the elite supported fascist regimes, he says. "It's terribly embarrassing."
Delisle can't wait to make them blush. She has spent the last few years coming archives in Canada, the united States and France, tracking down more than a dozen Nazi collaborators who came to Quebec after the war, as well as the prominent Quebecers who helped them. As we known now, many other nazi collaborators were also welcomed by sympathizers in many other parts of Canada, but so far, few historians have chased after them in the way Delisle is doing in her home province. She tells the story of Jacques de Bernonville, a senior police officer in Vichy France who hunted down resistance fighters during the war. Condemned to death in France, he came to Quebec under an assumed name in 1946. When immigration authorities discovered who he was in 1948 and ordered him out of the country, 143 Quebec notables signed a petition defending him. De Bernonville's supporters included the secretary general of the Université de Montréal and Camille Laurin, a student who would later (in 1976) become a senior Parti Québécois cabinet minister. Another collaborator, French Nazi propagandist Paul Reifenrath, came to Quebec under an assumed name and was sent by Union Nationale premier Maurice Duplessis to the Vatican in 1949 as his unofficial envoy.
Even the mayor of Montreal through the Thirties, Camillien Houde, supported fascist leaders like Italy's Mussolini. Henri Bourassa, the founder and former editor of Le Devoir, praised European fascist regimes as late as the summer of 1943. Polls showed the majority of Quebecers supported the Pétain regime in France, even in 1943, when it was increasingly clear that Pétain was collaborating with the Nazis. ' |
And if you'd ever bothered to read any of my posts concerning Canadian history during WWII you would have noted that I'm more than well aware of this.
The most recent post I made on the subject was less than 3 months ago.
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:37
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
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And I distinctly remember Mj. Lassen being the only non-British soldier awarded a VC during WWII, posthumously. |
Non-British?
No.
Non-Commonwealth, maybe. |
Commonwealth?
In 1945?
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Winston
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Danmark
Mar 1999
time: 06:37
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British, Commonwealth.. He was the only foreigner to receive the honour.
From The London Gazette:
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Friday, 7 September, 1945
The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the posthumous award of the VICTORIA CROSS to:
Major (temporary) Anders Frederik Emil Victor Schau LASSEN, M.C. (234907), General List.
In Italy, on the night of 8th/9th April, 1945, Major Lassen was ordered to take out a patrol of one officer and seventeen other ranks to raid the north side of Lake Comacchio.
His tasks were to cause as many casulties and as much confusion as possible, to give the impression of a major landing, and to capture prisoners. No previous reconnaissance was possible, and the party found itself on a narrow road flanked on both sides by water.
Preceded by two scouts, Major Lassen led his men along the road towards the town. They were challenged after approximately 500 yards from a position on the side of the road. An attempt to allay suspicion by answering that they were fishermen returning home failed, for when moving forward again to overpower the sentry, machine gun fire started from the position, and also from two other blockhouses to the rear.
Major Lassen himself then attacked with grenades, and annihilated the first position containing four Germans and two machine guns. Ignoring the hail of bullets sweeping the road from three enemy positions, an additional one having come into action from 300 yards down the road, he raced forward to engage the second position under covering fire from the remainder of the force. Throwing in more grenades he silenced this position which was then overrun by his patrol. Two enemies were killed, two captured and two more machine guns silenced.
By this time the force had suffered casualties and its fire power was very considerably reduced. Still under a heavy cone of fire Major Lassen rallied and reorganised his force and brought his fire to bear on the third position. Moving forward himself he flung in more grenades which produced a cry of "Kamerad". He then went forward to within three or four yards of the position to order the enemy outside, and to take their surrender.
Whilst shouting to them to come out he was hit by a burst of spandau fire from the left of the position and he fell mortally wounded, but even whilst falling he flung a grenade, wounding some of the occupants and enabling his patrol to dash in and capture this final position.
Major Lassen refused to be evacuated as he said it would impede the withdrawal and endanger further lives, and as ammunition was nearly exhausted the force had to withdraw.
By his magnificent leadership and complete disregard for his personal safety, Major Lassen had, in the face of overwhelming superiority, achieved his objectives. Three positions were wiped out, accounting for six machine guns, killing eight and wounding others of the enemy and two prisoners were taken. The high sense of devotion to duty and the esteem in which he was held by the men he led, added to his own magnificent courage, enabled Major Lassen to carry out all the tasks he had been given with complete success.
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:37
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Originally posted by BlackCat
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And then there are those 12.000 volunteers that entered german service. Many may have been nazis, but I guess that the main reason for joining was to fight soviet.
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Offcourse being Nazi was largely about being anti-soviet...
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BlackCat
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Originally posted by germanos
Offcourse being Nazi was largely about being anti-soviet... |
Nope, certainly not. Being nazi was, well, being nazi, but the main recruitment argument was to fight soviet.
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germanos
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behind a firm ****, Rotterdam, NL
Apr 2002
time: 06:37
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Originally posted by BlackCat
Nope, certainly not. Being nazi was, well, being nazi, but the main recruitment argument was to fight soviet. |
Nope, National Socialism is a direct response to the emergence of the Soviet Union post WWI. The NSDAP is a direct counter-offensive to stop the soviets spreading east.
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BlackCat
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Originally posted by germanos
Nope, National Socialism is a direct response to the emergence of the Soviet Union post WWI. The NSDAP is a direct counter-offensive to stop the soviets spreading east. |
Two things wrong.
I really don't think that germans was very concerned about what happened in the east of the soviet union.
Secondly, NSDAP wasn't anything else than the power base that hitler used to control germany. Actually the prime person/organisation to blame for the iron curtain is hitler/NSDAP.
Actually, both the nazi and the soviet regime was of the same bad ilk.
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