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Locutus
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ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager
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Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:15
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Sirotnikov,
You're joking right? The Phoenicians already lived in Canaan at least 2000 years before the Philistines arrived (roughly at the same time as the Israelites). After that, the Phoenicians lived along the northern Mediterranean coast (present day Lebanon and north Israel), the Philistines along the southern coast (present-day Gaza strip) and the Israelites mainly inland.
jdd,
A Minoan leader is easy, King Minos, a UU shouldn't be impossible (some early ship or whatever) and city names, well, I can easily come up with a few but - as with the Iroquois or Zulu - finding 30 or 50 might indeed be tricky (then again, Minoan history is not a specialty of mine). But Firaxis somehow found enough Zulu and Iroquois cities so I don't see why they couldn't find enough Minoan cities if they needed to...
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Kalbarczyk
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Poland
Sep 2001
time: 06:15
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1.Chinese - 20
2.Mongols - 20
3.Vikings - 20
4.Apache - 20
5.Poles -20
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Ubik
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Greece
Jun 2001
time: 05:15
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Now, some people got to be kidding, huh? Not knowing the Minoans?
OK, some data: Civilization that has risen circa 2600 BC in the Island of Crete. Pre-Greek, or Proto-Greek (the archeologists seem to have a tough one trying to figure out wether the Minoans had or had not a connection with the Greek). The Minoan ships (light vessels but able to travel fast and in the open sea) ruled the Eastern Mediteranean for no less than 1.000 years, having established very close relations with Egypt and various civilizations in the eastern med.
They seem to have traveled as far as the British islands. The Minoan civilization had suffered extensive damage due to the massive explosion (greater in a large scale than the one in Krakatoa, if you happen to know what that means) of the volcano at the island of Santorini (quite close to Crete) and they never recovered. A bit later the Achaens (Greek civ, known as "Mycenean" 1900 - 1100 BC - those who fought at Troy) managed to subdue the Minoans and the latter gradually melted into the Mycenean civilization.
Leader: King Minos
Capital: Knossos
Cities: Knossos, Faistos, Olus, Zakros, Tylissos, Gortys, Gournia, Mallia, Eleftherna, Levinas, Aradin, Lato, Itanos, Lefki, Ierapytna... should I go on?
Unique unit: A kind of upgraded trireme (not very accurate historicaly, because the trireme came aftre the 8th century BC but... what is in that game accurate anyway?)
Philisteans
They are one of those little mysteries for Archeologists worldwide. Their origin is unknown but they definitely were not Phoenicians (they were not of Semitic origin, if that says something to you). They seem to be at their peak in the 12th-10th century BC and later vanish without a trace (well, probably they just were assimilated to the large semitic populations in that region).
Some people tend to believe that they were of Minoan origin, but you can't rely on that.
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Ubik
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Greece
Jun 2001
time: 05:15
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Right, Alexander, the people of the sea have been definitely a great pest for the whole eastern mediteranea for many, many years.
Some archeologists suggest that the Aegean civilization (kin to the minoan) produced those "pirates" (not really pirates, they were mostly raiders) but other are suggesting that their origin is asia minor (Anatolia) and they gradually moved to the coastal areas and became skilled sailors. Some - as you say - are suggesting that they were connected with the Minoan and the Philisteans.
They are one of those great mysteries of the ancient times, along with the Philisteans and many other.
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Henryk Przerwa
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Poland
Sep 2001
time: 05:15
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Poles 20
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almaryk
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Poland
Sep 2001
time: 05:15
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Poles 20
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mrozu
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my votes:
poles 20
czech 20
argentinians 20
irakis 20
iranians 20
norwegians 20
kazakhs 20
goths 20
mrozu
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Internationalist
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Thessaloniki,Hellas
Oct 2000
time: 05:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Ubik
Leader: King Minos
Capital: Knossos
Cities: Knossos, Faistos, Olus, Zakros, Tylissos, Gortys, Gournia, Mallia, Eleftherna, Levinas, Aradin, Lato, Itanos, Lefki, Ierapytna... should I go on?
Unique unit: A kind of upgraded trireme (not very accurate historicaly, because the trireme came aftre the 8th century BC but... what is in that game accurate anyway?)
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Unit: Why not be original and give them a sea transport with 1-2 more movement and unit cargo?
Was Ierapetra called Ierapytna back then, or is it one more case of foreign language castration of words?
Cities: you could add some modern names also like Chania,Handakas, etc.
On The Fun Part, Special unit : Minotaur 
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26-09-2001 00:48
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Other way I won't buy Civ 3
that gave them a little boost. 
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