22-09-2001 22:09									#151
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-20 Mongol
+20 Arab

	22-09-2001 23:39									#152
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Incas -5
Goths -15
Vandals -5
Burgundians -5
Sioux -4
Huns -5
Ethiopians -5

Byzantines +20
Arabs +5
Celts +10
Hospitaliers +4
Mayas +5

	23-09-2001 00:21									#153
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what is wrong with you people? byzantines arnt a civ!!!
o well ... this is america and free speech is ... wait a second ...

	23-09-2001 00:48									#154
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NEANDERTHALS????? A CIVILIZATION?????? WHO WOULD BE THEIR UNIQUE UNIT??????? WHAT CITIES WOULD THEY HAVE???? WHAT CITY SYLE WOULD THEY HAVE?????? WHO WOULD THEIR LEADER BE???????

	23-09-2001 00:56									#155
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Neanderthal Civ -
Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire)
Capital: Cave Lugghuh
Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc.
UU: Fire Wielder (randomly sets terrain or self on fire)

Great Leaders:
Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females)
Mlugh (Need I say more?)
Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)

	23-09-2001 02:18									#156
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Hebrews 20
Mongols 20
Inca 20
Spanish 20
Arabs 20
Slavs 10

	23-09-2001 02:20									#157
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quote: Neanderthal Civ - Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire) Capital: Cave Lugghuh Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc.

quote: Great Leaders: Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females) Mlugh (Need I say more?) Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)

LOL!!!!!!!!!

	23-09-2001 04:00									#158
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 what is wrong with you people? byzantines arnt a civ!!! o well ... this is america and free speech is ... wait a second ...

If Byzantines aren't a civilization, then neither are Americans.

	23-09-2001 13:10									#159
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Actually, the Byzantines being a)the offspring of Rome (Roman Empire, they called themselves, the word "byzantine" is a 19th century invention, from the name of the Greek city "Byzantium" where Konstantinoupolis was founded) and b)a Greek empire (emperors, officials and most of the population after 700 AD were Greek)...

...it would not be one of my choices for Civ3 (since it's "place" has been taken by Rome and Greece) but it could be in a add-on pack. Why not?

Hail Belisarius!


About the Neanderthal line-up... one thing I have to say

	23-09-2001 17:04									#160
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quote: Neanderthal Civ - Leader: Ugg (Well known for inventing fire) Capital: Cave Lugghuh Other Cities: Cave 1, Cave2, etc. UU: Fire Wielder (randomly sets terrain or self on fire) Great Leaders: Glump (although he was eaten by wolves, no one mated more females) Mlugh (Need I say more?) Glarg (Ugg's son, and ruler of 15 hunters)

IM STILL LAUGHING

	23-09-2001 18:46									#161
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My votes
Mongols 20
Arabs 20
Poles 20
Phoenicians/Carthaginians 20
Celts 20
Ethiopians 20
Koreans 20
Byzantines 20

	23-09-2001 18:48									#162
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*Steps in for a bow*

I was feeling really inspired last night.

*Backs into the curtains*

	23-09-2001 19:01									#163
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 NEANDERTHALS????? A CIVILIZATION?????? WHO WOULD BE THEIR UNIQUE UNIT??????? WHAT CITIES WOULD THEY HAVE???? WHAT CITY SYLE WOULD THEY HAVE?????? WHO WOULD THEIR LEADER BE???????

See
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...125#post=419125
and
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...156#post=419156
for the true reason why they are in the list

*runs away hiding from jdd2007*
*looking for a way to turn into *

	23-09-2001 23:37									#164
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And my votes:

Poles 20
Mongols 20
Arabs 20
Carthaginians 20
Celts 20
Ethiopians 20
Hungarian 20
Czech 20

	23-09-2001 23:47									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Ubik Actually, the Byzantines being a)the offspring of Rome (Roman Empire, they called themselves, the word "byzantine" is a 19th century invention, from the name of the Greek city "Byzantium" where Konstantinoupolis was founded) and b)a Greek empire (emperors, officials and most of the population after 700 AD were Greek)... ...it would not be one of my choices for Civ3 (since it's "place" has been taken by Rome and Greece) but it could be in a add-on pack. Why not?

Same thing with Americans; originally a British colony, but unlike the Byzantines which were a surviving faction, since Constantinople was the alternate capital of the Roman Empire and remained while Rome was sacked. Constantinople exists today as Istanbul as well.....

	23-09-2001 23:51									#166
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quote: *runs away hiding from jdd2007* *looking for a way to turn into *

COME BACK HERE !!!!!!

	24-09-2001 03:16									#167
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I'm going to do a mini-survey.

What happened to Locutus?
1) Eaten by cannibals
2) Kidnapped by the crew of "Lost" and dropped in Myanmar
3) Exposed to nuclear waste and now fights crime
4) Asked to be the official sunscreen applier of the Swedish women's volleyball team

	24-09-2001 07:21									#168
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d) but he turned them down and now sits in a corner rocking back and forth...

	24-09-2001 12:37									#169
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e) they mistook him for me and is now sitting in a padded room yelling that his name is Locutus, not JDD

	24-09-2001 22:04									#170
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5) All of the above: I was asked to be the official sunscreen applier of the Swedish women's volleyball team, turned them down and, after I realized what I had done, sat in a corner rocking back and forth. While I was doing that I was kidnapped by the crew of "Lost" and dropped in Myanmar... on a nuclear waste dump. So after that I fought crime until I was captured and eaten by louche Italian cannibalistic gangsters

Anyway, in the meantime I did find the time to update somewhere. So: last update piom, 151 votes, 21928 points.

jdd2007 et al,
You know, if I'd remove all the civs from the list of which people have argued that they shouldn't be in Civ3 for whatever reason, the entire list would probably consist of only 3 civs (if not less)

Gramphos,
Well, are you happy now? Look what you did! The Neanderthals are already in the top 40 with 103 points. That's all your fault!

Brad,
For the record, you have 120 points left.

LoD,
You have 60 points left.

Ubik,
You have 100 points left.

axi,
IMHO if anyone, the only people who should merge civs together or whatever is Firaxis. We'll just present the list to them as is and let them decide what to do with it...

MacTBone,
You gave 6 points to 'The Empire'. Could you be just a little bit more specific about which of the hundreds of empires human history knew you are referring to?

Love the suggestions for Neanderthals, we'll definitely have to send those to Firaxis as well

Oerdin,
I gave the full 20 points to the Scots, this means you have 140 points left.

MishGolden,
You have 50 points left.

	24-09-2001 22:35									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Gramphos, Well, are you happy now? Look what you did! The Neanderthals are already in the top 40 with 103 points. That's all your fault!

You know, I did remove my vote for them or they would have had 111 points by now
We nead a :evillol: smilie.

	24-09-2001 22:51									#172
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos We nead a :evillol: smilie.

Here we go... + -->

	24-09-2001 23:12									#173
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how do u do that?

	24-09-2001 23:23									#174
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Wasn't it obvious??? They rule several galaxies, at least they did, until some Rebels killed the leader. I mean who'd have thought a guy named 'Skywalker' could beat up a guy named 'Darth Vader'?

	24-09-2001 23:26									#175
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Looks great, Gramphos Definitely one that should be added to the list, and I know the perfect name:

:muhahaha:

	24-09-2001 23:44									#176
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quote: Originally posted by MacTBone Wasn't it obvious??? They rule several galaxies, at least they did, until some Rebels killed the leader. I mean who'd have thought a guy named 'Skywalker' could beat up a guy named 'Darth Vader'?

Ah, ok. Going in that direction, are we? Well, I added them for you... May the force be with you

	25-09-2001 06:59									#177
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For my other 140 points I'd like to give:
Celts 20
Irish 20
Welsh 20
Vikings 20
Inca 20

and what the heck
Neanderthals 20
Californians 20

	25-09-2001 20:12									#178
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Alright, since the Numides are in the list as "Nubians" I shall change my voting to +20 Nubians

Also, my 100 points left go to:

+20 Ethiopian
+20 Inca
+20 Carthagenian/Phoenician
+20 Minoan
+20 Arabs

	25-09-2001 20:23									#179
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Welsh +100

	25-09-2001 23:03									#180
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Triped,
you can give no more then 20 points to one civ