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Adagio
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FIRAXIS, do not even think about making the release be like my favorite RTS (before you all bann me I'd better say TBS is ofcause the best one  ) game "The Settlers IV". What they did to destroy the game, here it is:
- There's NO language option in the game, danish is the only language on the CD's avaliable to buy here in Denmark
- They promised they would ship both an english version and an danish version to Denmark at the same time, it's now 6 months since release and I haven't seen anything of the english version
- As everybody here also say, the translations are mostly bad, in this game it was extremely bad, e.g. in the game you can build both a blacksmith and a weaponsmith, in the translation they where both called the same...and as far as I remember that word didn't even cover one of those english words.
I did NOT buy the game
And what it seems like, the sales dropped way much in Scandinavia, not many Scandinavians like to play a game in their own country in a (I believe) largeer scale than other countries
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
time: 05:15
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I've once encountered a Dutch civsite who invited other dutch to come up with translations of texts concerning CIV-II.
Maybe it's an idea for FIRAXIS to open the possibility to add other (than the "official" ones*) language patches to the game. (* when I bought CIV-II I could choose between an anglo, french and german "spoken" game, why not be able to add other languages).
I would love it if I could play the game dutch- (my fathertongue) or frisian- (my mothertongue) or plattdütsch- (lower german, a beautiful "unofficial" language from the northwest of Germany) "spoken". (German and Dutch are close related to oneanother, as are Frisian and English).
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
time: 05:15
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Originally posted by ADG
What can a game company gain from releasing the game in different languages, but only take ONE language on each game copy? |
What about marketing reasons. In Europa there are more people speaking german (germany, belgium, luxemburg, switzerland, austria, poland, about 108 million) than english (UK + Ireland, about 70 million) and french (france, belgium, luxemburg and zwitserland about 65 million).
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Originally posted by ADG I just can't see that any company (except when they are making childrens games) could gain anything from doing that, the minimum there could be is 2 languages on a CD, the original and the translatet!!! |
What if you could help to make a good translation of the game you love and be able to add a your native languagepatch to the game ?? I would go for that !! When I started playing CIV-II years ago, I sometimes needed the german text to understand what the english text was about. Besides, I deleted all the french textfiles from the game once I had the game installed on my harddisk.
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
time: 05:15
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Originally posted by Earthling7
English is the language of the world, and if you don't speak it, you should learn. |
And you think that's obvious, you take that for granted. I don't !!!.
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Gramphos
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ACS Civ III Files Manager, Prince of Development
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Chalmers, Sweden
Apr 2001
time: 06:15
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Originally posted by XarXo
Well, the language theme is always a disaccording point  , for example, Catalan is spoken by 10/11 milions and Sweden by 5/6, but surely you'll find tons of more stuff in Sweden than in Catalan . What we can make? PRAY!!! |
It is Swedish. 
And 9 million people live in Sweden, but some don't speak Swedish, but some Finns do, so more then 6 million speak Swedish.
And Sweden has most computers per person (I think) 
Also many Swedes play games, anyway I like games in English if they aren't originally made in Swedish, as all games are badly translated.
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Adm.Naismith
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Milano - Italy
Oct 1999
time: 06:15
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Originally posted by Asmodean
In Denmark, at least, if you want the English version, you will have to buy quickly after the game is released. Translated versions normally appear a few weeks after release date. That was the case with Europa Universalis. Sadly, once the translated version becomes available, it is next to impossible to obtain the English version.
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The same happens in Italy, usually. After two/three weeks you will end with:
a) the game is not enough selled - no translation will appear, you can find english copies as long as the shop rebate and sales them all
b) the game sell quite well, but not enough to cover translation of voice - you can have a translation of the manual only or, if the game make it easy, of the game text and subtitle. Sometime the mix is deadly (you can't understand how the words used in manual match with in game text left english 
c) the game sell well enough, or original distibution contract state you have a full translation task assigned, so you'll have a full translated (sometimes very roughly - i.e. Civ II italian version) game, but often you'll left out on the cold with patches (see SMAC patches 4.0 in italian).
That's the only reason to hurry in buying Civ III here in Italy, IMHO... get an english copy to have all the patches as soon as possible 
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
time: 05:15
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A few posts higher up here I've talked about a dutch CIV-site which invited people to come up with dutch translations for a dutch language patch. And yes, some of the translations I've read were dramatic, pretty poor dutch in style (grammar, semantics, linguistical things etc.) and appeal.
The german translations I know from CIV-II was really good eloquent german. My guess is that it was a german who did that job, one who's good at understanding anglo and writing in her/his own language.
The translation of textfiles of the game could be done in somesort of "project-organisation-way", where a group of, say, apolytonions who speak the same language tackle the job with eachother. You ought to appoint one who does the coordination when you embark on such an affair. There should also be one who does the final editing. The language needs to be streamlined, appealing, and the terminology being used must be univocal.
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20-09-2001 21:20
BTW, a Russian translation of civ2 made by game fans is still much better than any new game translation. Except probably official translation of Europa Universalis. They made a really good job translating it to Russian, they deserve the credit. So I think this is just a matter of translators' willingless. Does anybody complain about bad English in Settlers? Although the English version is translated one, the original is in German. 
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