14-10-2001 21:23									#1
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Ok
I've been taking French for 12 years. I know my stuff. In French, Joan of Arc is called Jeanne D'Arc. In English, its Joan of Arc. But in Firaxian, its Joan D'Arc. Either do one or the other, but not both.

	14-10-2001 22:17									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia Ok I've been taking French for 12 years. I know my stuff. In French, Joan of Arc is called Jeanne D'Arc. In English, its Joan of Arc. But in Firaxian, its Joan D'Arc. Either do one or the other, but not both.

And you mis-spelled "spelled"
It is quite likely they wanted to combine the English spelling with a French "flavor". OTH, maybe they goofed.

	14-10-2001 22:24									#3
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quote: And you mis-spelled "spelled"

hehehe

	14-10-2001 22:33									#4
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and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?

	14-10-2001 22:35									#5
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quote: and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?

Were not talking about faces and leader graphics. Were talking about grammar.

	14-10-2001 22:37									#6
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are you sure it's grammar and not something like...err... syntax?

	14-10-2001 22:42									#7
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They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced

	14-10-2001 22:49									#8
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[Pedant mode]

Actually, "spelt" is in the Oxford English dictionary as an acceptable spelling. British vs American English?

Perhaps they should have called her "La Pucelle", or even "The Maid of Orleans"...

	14-10-2001 22:56									#9
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Am I wrong in assuming this can be easily edited?

	14-10-2001 23:23									#10
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Actually...I'm against the translation of names...

	14-10-2001 23:24									#11
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Me too. I like Jeanne d'Arc (I think the "d" in d'Arc is lowercase... if you want to get specific).

	14-10-2001 23:26									#12
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quote: Originally posted by GodSpawn [Pedant mode] Actually, "spelt" is in the Oxford English dictionary as an acceptable spelling. British vs American English? Perhaps they should have called her "La Pucelle", or even "The Maid of Orleans"...

Spelt is definitely an acceoptable if not the preferred way to indicate the past tense of spell.

On the Joan issue, I agree. One or the other but not both. I would prefer all original spellings in the language of origin, as I would for cities as well...

	14-10-2001 23:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Zopper Actually...I'm against the translation of names...

so will we see Otto Fürst von Bismarck and/or Paul von Beneckendorf und Hindenburg as well then?

BTW, did you know Catherine the Great was German

	14-10-2001 23:41									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion so will we see Otto Fürst von Bismarck and/or Paul von Beneckendorf und Hindenburg as well then?

Fine by me...I don't play with the Germans anyway...

	14-10-2001 23:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by jsw363 Spelt is definitely an acceptable if not the preferred way to indicate the past tense of spell. ...

I stand corrected. I finally found a dictionary that at least had it in there. Thank you, perhaps I will try using it.

	14-10-2001 23:59									#16
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"Spelt" is one of those British past tenses, like "dreamt" or "learnt."

And it really should be Jeanne d'Arc. One of the first things I'm going to do is correct all the "translated" (butchered) leaders and cities. So it'll be Jeanne d'Arc (not Joan of Arc) who owns Lyon (not Lyons) and Besançon (not Besancon) speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver) about exchanging Köln (not Cologne) and München (not Munich) for Orléans (not Orleans) and a pact against Mao Zedong (not Mao Tse Tung).

	15-10-2001 00:30									#17
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quote: like Jeanne d'Arc (I think the "d" in d'Arc is lowercase... if you want to get specific).

Yes, you're right

	15-10-2001 00:34									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Faboba They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced

Wow! John Dark is so cool!

	15-10-2001 00:37									#19
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut [...]speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver)

Otto the bus driver!
Even cooler than John Dark!

	15-10-2001 00:42									#20
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wenigstens bin ich nicht der einzige, der die ganzen Städte in richtige Sprache übersetzt

	15-10-2001 03:36									#21
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut "Spelt" is one of those British past tenses, like "dreamt" or "learnt." And it really should be Jeanne d'Arc. One of the first things I'm going to do is correct all the "translated" (butchered) leaders and cities. So it'll be Jeanne d'Arc (not Joan of Arc) who owns Lyon (not Lyons) and Besançon (not Besancon) speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver) about exchanging Köln (not Cologne) and München (not Munich) for Orléans (not Orleans) and a pact against Mao Zedong (not Mao Tse Tung).

... and speaking with Yekaterina (not Catherine) who lives in Moskva (not Moscow) about nuking the city of Roma (not Rome).

	15-10-2001 03:38									#22
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I though this was more like a Civilizations topic so i posted it earlier in the Civilizations forum!

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...25&pagenumber=3

	15-10-2001 04:36									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Yoleus Wow! John Dark is so cool!

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Wasn't the main character of the PSX-game Perfect Dark...called Joanna Dark?
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	15-10-2001 05:25									#24
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Actually, that was an N64 game, and yes, you are right.

	15-10-2001 06:49									#25
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quote: They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced

Hey I think "***** of the French" would work...

	15-10-2001 06:52									#26
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Bah, bring back Napoleon

	15-10-2001 07:05									#27
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whyd they scrap him in the first place?

	15-10-2001 08:13									#28
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Yes I can not believe they are spelling it Joan d'Arc. That is just senseless.

	15-10-2001 08:18									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?

Wouldnt that make him a Zepplin?

	15-10-2001 08:43									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf ... and speaking with Yekaterina (not Catherine) who lives in Moskva (not Moscow) about nuking the city of Roma (not Rome).

You mean EKATEPuHA and MOCKBA?
...and rejecting the offer, instead allying with IVLIVS CÆSAR (not Julius Caesar) to partition POCCuS| (Not Russia) so that you get CAHKT |*|ETEP6YP|* (not Saint Petersburg) and he gets APXAH|*E^bCK (not Archangelsk), and then going to war with the city below (not Tokyo). Really, how hard would it be to make Civ III Unicode-compliant?