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Settler

May 2001
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Er, hi.

I saw on the bug list that some people have been having a problem where all the lines disappear from their Foreign Adviser screen when their screen saver activates.

I have the same problem, except that I NEVER have the lines; my Foreign Adviser screen has never worked properly.

I've tried reinstalling the game, and even reinstalling from a friend's CD, but it makes no difference.

Does anyone have any idea why this might be. I was going to list it as a bug, but the fact that it hasn't happened to anyone else makes me wonder whether there might be something wrong with my system or settings.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

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You probably don't have OpenGL installed.

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May 2001
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At the risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, what it OpenGL and how would I go about getting it installed?

(Thanks for the help, by the way).

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Sorry for being brief. OpenGL is routines for graphics that the game uses to draw lines.

See this post by Dan about this problem. Also see this

For non Windows 2000/XP
www.glsetup.com

Windows 2000/XP
http://webdeploy.glsetup.com/webdeploy.121/glsetup.exe

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Settler

Nov 2001
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I have the same problem, the lines between leaders are not there and have never been there, regardless of what I check in the treaties/trade box. I am a little comforted to know that a few others out there are having the same problem.

I tried downloading glsetup but it crashed during download. I also updated my display driver to the latest version from the manufacturer, and it supposedly supports OpenGL. I have an ATI Rage Pro Turbo.

I would reeeeeealllly like to get this problem figured out, so I hope if others have the problem and solve it, I'd like to hear how they did it.

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I have the same problem, no treaty lines on the Foreign Advisor screen, and I don't remember ever having them. I could have easily let my screen saver pop up before ever looking at the Foreign Advisor screen.

Gramphos, doesn't Civ3 install OpenGL if you don't have it? There is an executable on the cd. I have a few .dll files with 'opengl' in the filename, so I am going to assume I have some version of it installed.

I am assuming that you have no problems with missing treaty lines on the Foreign Advisor screen. Do your lines disappear after the screen saver pops up?

Does anyone know how to get the lines back in either case???!?

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Gramphos, doesn't Civ3 install OpenGL if you don't have it? There is an executable on the cd. I have a few .dll files with 'opengl' in the filename, so I am going to assume I have some version of it installed.

All I know is that Firaxis' Dan recommended that files.

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Updating the OpenGL driver works

Thanks Gramphos

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Settler

Nov 2001
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Well, I've just found a new glitch with the patch... My foreign advisor lines no longer appear after I play one turn, but they show fine when I start the same game. If I save, exit, and reload the lines again stick around for one turn before disappearing... I've tried installing the GLupdate, etc and even reinstalled the latest drivers for my graphics card. Maybe this is a new issue with nVidia cards -- I've got a TNT2 Ultra on my system. Anyone else experience this problem?

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Yes I have the same problem...

Never had this occur before until the new patch. I have a 3dfx card...voodoo 3. Tried updating/installing open GL but that didn't make a difference...only way to get the lines to show is to exit out of the game.

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Nov 2001
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tech_maniac, civplayer I have got the same problem with foreigh advisor lines, PLUS: settler rectangle (the one that shows where at first the borders of a new city will be) disappeared, some weird rectangles appear in the demographics (in size they are near to city "description board" outlines), Babylonians changed colour from green to deep blue....
This all has happened after I installed the patch and opened my saved game.
I do not have 3dfx of NVideo...
So, is it a new bug or just saved game compatibility problem?

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Settler

Nov 2001
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I started a couple of new games last night just to see if the patch problem was related to the pre-patch saves, and it looks that way. I haven't had a single problem with lines in the new game -- I even tried a new game on the same map with no problems. The new game works great except that units with more than one movement point almost always seem to move two squares every time I pick up a goody hut... but that's an issue for a different thread, I think...

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Well I donīt think so... I started a new game, played for a while and after I entered the military advisor screen the lines in the diplomacy screen disappeared.

OS: WinME
Videocard: 3d annihilator Pro

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Yeah, I just noticed the same thing after visiting the military advisor in one of my new games... I guess it's a trade-off -- you can see the treaty lines or you can use your military advisor... I wonder how many other screens cause the same problem?

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Nov 2001
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Did some more checking... it seems that the foreign advisor lines work fine until I open up any of the other advisor screens, then no longer work afterward. I don't think I got through all the combinations (got tired of exiting the game and then waiting for it to start and load the save...), but so far I can't see the lines after I access the military, domestic, science or trade advisors, and I've even had them disappear after checking the score screens, though that doesn't always happen... I haven't had problems with any advisor other than foreign, though... so I guess as long as I don't meet any other civs in my games I won't have this frustration...

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tech_maniac, civplayer I have got the same problem with foreigh advisor lines, PLUS: settler rectangle (the one that shows where at first the borders of a new city will be) disappeared, some weird rectangles appear in the demographics (in size they are near to city "description board" outlines), Babylonians changed colour from green to deep blue....
This all has happened after I installed the patch and opened my saved game.
I do not have 3dfx of NVideo...
So, is it a new bug or just saved game compatibility problem?

The bug seem to be gone in the updated patch.

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Yes,

The problem is gone for me also in the updated patch.

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Yes, I also installed new patch and my saves work OK now.

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Nov 2001
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I'm glad the updated patch is working for some people at least! I still lose the lines afterviewing the demographics screen and military advisor... maybe a few others, too, but I got tired of restarting the game to experiment. At least I can now check the domestic advisor without making the foreign advisor lines disappear... maybe some day the others will work...

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The new version of the patch may have fixed the problem with the Foreign Advisor screen, but after you visit ANY screen (any advisor, histograph, palace etc.) the boxes around city names and settlers get displaced downwards a little more than a square. This gets very distracting at the least, and is very anoying in the case of the settler. I have Win98se and a lot of other people who have also mentioned this problem elsewhere also seem to have '98 as well.

How about v1.17f while we wait for 1.24f, 1.33f, 1.51f .......

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Settler

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I don't think that I had this line problem in the Diplomacy/Leaders screen UNTIL in installed the patch. I had installed the 'bad' version of the patch, and noticed the problem. I've run the updated patch, but still have the problem with the peace/war/trade lines disappearing. It seems to happen any time there is a change to the leader graphics (e.g. Civ is eliminated) or if there is a change to diplomatic/trade status (e.g. I declare war on a civ, or AI trades with another AI).

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm going to try uninstalling the game, then reinstalling it and the patch. (I'll run the GUI before applying the patch to avoid that nasty ini problem... )

FYI, I'm running a 32MB NVidia card (not sure of the exact model).

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